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  • #724099
    Howard Lewis
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      @howardlewis46836

      Supposedly from Eon Next there is a scam trying to gather data.

      It is VERY subtle,

      The E mail address was initially

      hi@eonnext.com

      which then changes to

      Eon-Next

      NOTE the hyphen!  Not present in genuine messages.

      The message just asks too many questions, in the guise of data protection.

      Eon Next have been made aware of this.

      Howard

       

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      #724146
      Matt T
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        @mattt

        Thanks for letting us know Howard. I’m with eon next so could have been caught out

        #724214
        Brian Wood
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          @brianwood45127

          Thank you Howard,

          If you forward the email to Report@phising.gov.uk they have the means to block and take down such material.

          Often all you need to enter, after selecting forward, is the letter R and it fills in the rest for you. You also get a reply thanking you for reporting this stuff,

          Regards   Brian

          #724218
          Grindstone Cowboy
          Participant
            @grindstonecowboy

            Just fixing that typo for Brian ^

            report@phishing.gov.uk

            Always worth doing, some say it doesn’t help, but if you don’t report them, it cannot help.

            Similarly, scam text messages should be forwarded to 7726, they then send a reply asking for the number that sent it to you.

            Rob

            #724291
            Nigel Graham 2
            Participant
              @nigelgraham2

              What may make some people say it does not help is that none of the reporting services tell you the progress or outcome – I can think why.

              I report many to the BT (my ISP) one as well.

              #724366
              Chris Crew
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                @chriscrew66644

                I got caught! Can’t believe I was so stupid after all these years. Bought a new Samsung smart TV the other week and began to set it up at the weekend. It appeared that you had to create a Samsung account to register the set for the manufacturer’s guarantee (you used to just fill in a post card with the serial number etc., not anymore it seems) and I was having problems doing this via the TV screen. So, I logged on to the legitimate Samsung website using the laptop and was, it appeared, succeeding in registering the TV. In the course of doing this a screen appeared requesting my credit card details and, this is when the donkey’s ears started growing, I happily filled in the form thinking the legitimate site needed this to establish my identity but it wasn’t the legitimate Samsung site, it was either pop-up or a hack. Subsequently, a £39.99 subscription appeared on my credit card but neither myself, looking through the Samsung website and a Google search, or the credit card provider can find which company, organisation or service has charged my card using PYD*allcontent.club as an identity. If anyone recognises this could they please let me know.

                The credit card provider will block any future charges to my card from this source but it looks like I am going to have to take a forty-quid hit because I voluntarily disclosed my credit card details. Why any manufacturer should be allowed to make you sign up to an account with them before your TV will function properly is a scandal, IMO, because the Samsung account is only there now so that it can promote its other products. It seems it is no longer needed to make all the TV apps work. For sure, I will not be buying any more Samsung products from now on!

                #724368
                Grindstone Cowboy
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                  @grindstonecowboy

                  Chris

                  A quick search reveals allcontent.club, whose address appears to be:

                  All Content ©2024 Lexech Ltd 43 Budham Way, Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 7PE

                  Don’t know why your credit card company could not find that, but it may be worthwhile passing the information on. Unlikely you will get your money back, but ….

                  Rob

                  #724373
                  Chris Crew
                  Participant
                    @chriscrew66644

                    Rob,

                    Thankyou for that, I don’t know how you found it because I have just done another quick Google search and it doesn’t come back with anything close. I am resigned to losing my forty-quid, I suppose I could have used whatever it is I have inadvertently bought for the month I have paid for but I never created account with them and never gave them my email or home address so I have no idea how to find or access their service. Like I said, I thought it was Samsung wanting to establish my identity through my credit card in my enthusiasm to get the new TV up and running although I now realise how stupid it was to think this, but the pop-up/hack did appear to be integral to the genuine Samsung site, IIRC.

                    #724384
                    Nigel Graham 2
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                      @nigelgraham2

                      I can see why you were tricked, and I expect many have been, but this is rather an odd one.

                      Using UK addresses and even telephone numbers to appear legitimate is not new, and there are even dealers openly selling London telephone-numbers to any old spiv going even if not physically in the British Isles.

                       

                      Entering “allcontent.club” in the search-bar goes nowhere. It is a brand, not a company name.

                      Eventually I discovered that the address is of a home in a housing-estate, though if the business needs merely a small office that itself is not a sign of anything untoward. Many sole traders work at and from home.

                      The same address also hosts something called “Content 4 all” offering pop-music and games, its own web-site clearly showing it as aimed at teenagers. The same also trades as “gamestime.zone.” I will leave it to the music and games industry to establish if it is following copyright law!

                      Would a major manufacturer like Samsung, and a bank or credit-card company, really administer their guarantees use a pop and games purveyor in the spare bedroom?

                      How does such a trader as Lexech even know you bought a television? Who gave “The Occupier, 43 Budham Way…” your purchase details?

                      A letter to the Trading Standards Office might not come amiss.

                      I think the lesson for us all is to establish before signing or pressing “Enter” the identity and bona-fide of any alleged guarantee-agency, and ask the dealer or manufacturer suitably awkward questions….

                      .

                      Also, why do you need “register” for a guarantee anyway? I may be wrong but I thought basic warrantees on goods sold in the UK at least, were valid without needing registration, as long as you can prove you bought them, when and where.

                       

                      #724395
                      Michael Gilligan
                      Participant
                        @michaelgilligan61133

                        This doesn’t really help, Chris … but I was rather surprised when I searched Companies House for Lexech Ltd.

                        https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/search?q=lexech

                        Click on the Officers tab, and you will see what I mean.

                        … there may, of course, be a reasonable explanation.

                        MichaelG.

                        #724397
                        Robert Atkinson 2
                        Participant
                          @robertatkinson2

                          That is normal. You did a search on lexech and there are no officers named lexech.

                          If you click on the company name and then people you get this

                          https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14772794/officers

                          Robert.

                          #724401
                          Michael Gilligan
                          Participant
                            @michaelgilligan61133

                            Thanks, Robert

                            … a bit tired today, and obviously did it wrong

                            MichaelG.

                            #724404
                            Martin of Wick
                            Participant
                              @martinofwick

                              …..And like as not a completely bogus company, of which the unfortunate dwellers at that address are totally unaware… until they start getting demands for unpaid VAT from HMRC or enraged scammed victims turning up to find their money or goods, etc.

                              Every half ass criminal in the whole world knows they can register on Companies House for a few quid, no questions asked, no checks, nada, and present to the world as a bona fide outfit for long enough to scam a few thousand people.

                              It’s been an absolute disgrace for years and is still going on.

                               

                              #724406
                              Clive Brown 1
                              Participant
                                @clivebrown1

                                Searching for “allcontent.club” on my PC goes straight to a  website of good appearance offering subscription based on-line access to music, films, games and books. Not my cup-of tea but I have to say that it looks quite legit, ( but who knows )?

                                Site has seemingly clear options for subscribing and unsubscribing, the latter either by email or telephone, Perhaps if Chris uses that number to explain what’s happened, then he just might get a refund.

                                No. is +44 1376 319272.

                                Can’t think how the website came up on the telly. Doesn’t look likely to be a business partner of Samsung, I’ve always assumed that warranty registration is for marketing / sales data.

                                #724415
                                Robert Atkinson 2
                                Participant
                                  @robertatkinson2

                                  A number look-up indicates reports of that number being associated with card fraud…
                                  https://www.unknownphone.com/phone/01376319272

                                  I had a call last week which was interesting. I strung it allog a bit. A well spoken female asked if I would help with a survey. It soon appeared to me that they were trying to indirectly collect information. For example rather than asking my employment status they asked where I accessed the internet e.g. work school. I said anywhere I needed too. they would not accept that and kept pressing for specifics. When I said everyone accesses the internet wherever they are these days and I thought they were just trying to find out other things. They hung up….

                                  Robert.

                                  #724442
                                  Nigel Graham 2
                                  Participant
                                    @nigelgraham2

                                    I think it’s worth contacting your credit-card company and the Samsung dealers, warning them you suspect a fraud attempt possibly using – as Martin suggests – a false address.

                                    I see the apparent peddler of entertainments software is listed as “Director” (which I suppose he would if proprietor) and describes himself as a “Trainee Executive”. What does that mean, and trained by whom?

                                    #724489
                                    Chris Crew
                                    Participant
                                      @chriscrew66644

                                      Some very interesting contributions to this thread that have added to my education considerably. I accept I was at fault in my enthusiasm to get the new TV up and running but I have to say that the credit card provider has been very helpful indeed. It has re-credited my card with the £39.99 pending an investigation and if this establishes that allcontent.club is at fault in not providing me with all the required information before it debited the money, then I will retain the credit. If not, I will be liable for the charge (which I accept is down to my own stupidity) but all future debits will be blocked. This is the best result I could have hoped for under the circumstances and exceeded my expectations.

                                      #724491
                                      Swarf Maker
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                                        @swarfmaker85383

                                        My wife had a text message today, purportedly from the AA regarding renewal of her house insurance.  No idea where her mobile phone number had been filched from or whether it was a completely automated number dialler.  Needless to say it was just deleted before being read since we have no business with the AA in any role.

                                        #724520
                                        duncan webster 1
                                        Participant
                                          @duncanwebster1

                                          SWMBO hands out mobile number and email to any Tom Dick or Harry, so she gets junk calls and emails galore. Lots of retailers insist on this info. I tell them my email is mindYourOwn@business.com, and just make up  a phone number. I’ve yet to have a retailer refuse to complete the sale. If they demand a post code they get the town hall.

                                          #724531
                                          derek hall 1
                                          Participant
                                            @derekhall1

                                            I had a call on my landline number telling me that “my bank” had noticed two unusual payments from my bank account giving me the amounts. I was invited to press 1 to speak to someone about this.

                                            I hung up. Logged in to my bank accounts all was ok. So I dialled 1471 last number called to see who phoned me. Interestingly it was a number with the same area code and the same first three digits of my own phone number indicating that it came frome someone local to me. The auto voice came back saying number not recognised…

                                            Regards

                                            Derek

                                            #724537
                                            bernard towers
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                                              @bernardtowers37738

                                              The call would not have be local to you just cleverly rerouted to look like that, its such a pity they cant put their intelligence to something legal.

                                              #724545
                                              Circlip
                                              Participant
                                                @circlip

                                                Why should they when the trawls are so lucrative?

                                                Regards  Ian

                                                #724547
                                                Nigel Graham 2
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                                                  @nigelgraham2

                                                  If the attackers are clever enough to re-route or “spoof” telephone-numbers one might think the telecommunications companies are clever enough to make that impossible….

                                                  … but they won’t.

                                                  They are also big enough and clever enough to stop dubious third-party agencies openly selling London (and other?) telephone-numbers to anyone even if not physically in Britain….

                                                  …. but they won’t.

                                                  #724662
                                                  Howi
                                                  Participant
                                                    @howi

                                                    with regard to Samsung TV’s. I too bought a Samsung TV called ‘The Frame’ and when setting up the TV was directed to a web site that gave the option of multiple screen saver images over and above what came pre installed. As I remember there was a charge for this service.

                                                    I declined!!!!

                                                    #724744
                                                    Nigel Graham 2
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                                                      @nigelgraham2

                                                      I received one wrongful call, either the recorded-message or silent type, I forget which, so quietly sat, steadily whistling little repetitions of 3 rising notes until the call ended.

                                                      I rather hoped that someone was monitoring it, so might think the number was of some arcane piece of communications equipment they’d not previously encountered. Or think my number no longer exists.

                                                      I have yet to try, “Sorry, Mr. Grah-ham has moved away [/ passed away/ become Ms. Molly Flanders / been extradited / …] I’m just helping sell the house”.

                                                      .

                                                      I’ve also amused myself by dreaming up improbable wrong-number destinations, such as “Good Morning! Rheilffordd Llangattock here. Daren Cilau speaking. How may I help you”, while carefully not affecting too much Welsh accent because I’d sound Asian instead. (I am English!)

                                                      Or,

                                                      ” ‘Windows’? Sorry, I use that new system, Felinbach, Gamma Plus edition, from the Ystradfellte HQ of Brønnøysund & Penyghent Telecomm. Not heard of it? Oh, fully Microsoft compatible but brilliantly traces the real originating phone numbers or URLs and places, and records voice calls. Can’t be too careful these days, with all these scam scum about, can we?”

                                                       

                                                      Hoping I’d trick the crook into wanting me to waffle more and even spell those names, but I expect it would not go far before he or she abruptly rings off. Normally I just make clear I know they are lying, and ring off.

                                                      Oh, and those names I’ve shamelessly used and abused for fictitious ones are all of real geographical things or places in Wales, Norway and England.

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