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  • #336914
    Neil Wyatt
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      @neilwyatt

      After doing some electronics, it occurred to me I can write a list of my ten most useful tools & accessories for electronics that might help others. Not in any order:

      1. Temperature controlled soldering iron
      2. Hot air rework gun
      3. Proper wire cutter/strippers for small gauge wire
      4. Oscilloscope
      5. Digital multimeter
      6. PCB holder or helping hands
      7. Stainless steel needle on a handle (for removing tiny shorts)
      8. Hand lens (for finding the shorts in the first place)
      9. Basic bench power supply
      10. Scope/meter probes with tiny clips on the end

      Not really a tool or accessory so I feel safe to add a copy of The Art of Electronics.

      Who else has a list of ten useful things for various hobbies/activities?

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      #35096
      Neil Wyatt
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        @neilwyatt
        #336917
        Richard Marks
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          @richardmarks80868

          Add a retractable scalpel to your list, good for cutting, picking, scraping and other things.

          Edited By Richard Marks on 15/01/2018 22:22:27

          #336921
          Neil Wyatt
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            @neilwyatt
            Posted by Richard Marks on 15/01/2018 22:21:59:

            Add a retractable scalpel to your list, good for cutting, picking, scraping and other things.

            Edited By Richard Marks on 15/01/2018 22:22:27

            Yes, but then it would be eleven, I marginally use a needle more than a scalpel. Strictly it's a dissecting needle too

            #336922
            Enough!
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              @enough
              Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/01/2018 22:05:30:

              1. PCB holder or helping hands

              I bought one of these the other day. One of the nice things is that additional jaws in any shape/size you want can be 3D-printed.

              Observant Model Engineers might notice that the rest of it might make a suitable, short shop-project.

              #336923
              Mick B1
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                @mickb1

                Solder sucker.

                Or does the 'rework gun' do that?

                Or don't you make mistakes? devillaugh

                Edited By Mick B1 on 15/01/2018 22:59:56

                #336928
                Robin
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                  @robin

                  I bought a Wowstick electric screwdriver. It sits on the back of my desk and lends the whole room a air of class. Occasionally it's wafer thin, white LED switches on to show it is diligently keeping it's battery in peak condition. The decks are patently cleared for action, I know that one day I will find a use for it and it will be glorious face 22

                  #336930
                  Geoff Theasby
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                    @geofftheasby

                    I've never needed a temp controlled iron, used an Antex X25 for decades. Rework gun? No. Soda-Wick is much cheaper. Analogue meter by choice. Mostly, you don't need three places of decimals to check a voltage. You only need a digital meter for checking resistors. Wire stripper – fibreglass automatic, Light in weight, in constant use at Theasby Electronics. Pay about £20. Helping hands, Yes! Solder dispenser, otherwise the solder reel is forever rolling about. Head mounted magnifier. Desk lamp. Art of Electronics is good, but I have since discovered EPE's 'Teach in' series. They are VERY good.

                    Geoff

                    #336932
                    Jeff Dayman
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                      @jeffdayman43397

                      1 lb ball pein hammer, oxyacetylene cutting torch, electric stick welder , 1/4" punch, 7/16 and 1/2" combination wrenches, gas line antifreeze liquid are what tools I am mostly using these days – no, not making watches or gauge 1 live steam locomotives – repairing various gas/petrol powered snowblowers from the neighborhood. Lots of snow at times, and very cold this year here in Ontario Canada, so people are finding out the hard way what is weak/marginal/would have been a hell of a lot easier to fix in August in their snowblowers.

                      It's a balmy -8 deg C here tonight just FYI. Forgot to mention long johns in the mandatory tool section above.

                      #336935
                      Sandgrounder
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                        @sandgrounder
                        Posted by Geoff Theasby on 16/01/2018 02:13:11:

                        I've never needed a temp controlled iron, used an Antex X25 for decades.

                        Geoff

                        The same iron for me and before that a Henley Solon 25W which I still have.

                        John

                        #336937
                        J Hancock
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                          @jhancock95746

                          A 52mm OE spanner, especially when the central heating pump connection starts to leak and not a single plumbing /tool shop in the town has one. "We can get one ordered for you, sir " !

                          I made one in the workshop while I was waiting.

                          #336938
                          J Hancock
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                            @jhancock95746

                            A 52mm OE spanner, especially when the central heating pump connection starts to leak and not a single plumbing /tool shop in the town has one. "We can get one ordered for you, sir " !

                            I made one in the workshop while I was waiting.

                            #336941
                            john carruthers
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                              @johncarruthers46255

                              Eleven, eleven useful things, Blue Tac. wink

                              Among our useful things are………

                              Edited By john carruthers on 16/01/2018 08:06:53

                              #336945
                              Howi
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                                @howi

                                Freq gen, component tester, lots of Chinese goodies on eBay for peanuts.

                                I know we have now exceeded 10 but why restrict yourself.

                                Just got myself a component tester (one of the better class ones!) assembled (for £2) for £12 + a self assembly plastic case, all came in under £15 so will not trouble HMRC.

                                Don't keep us guessing – what are you making Neil?

                                #336947
                                John Haine
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                                  @johnhaine32865

                                  On soldering irons: I've used the Antex / Solon types in the past. When I started doing electronics as a job every bench had a Weller iron and it was a revelation. The big advantage is that you have lots of power to get the tip hot, but controlled so it doesn't overheat. This minimises the chances of a small tip getting chilled when you place it on the job and thus the chances of overheating the component. Maplins for one have quite reasonably priced TC irons and it's well worth having for electronics work, plus a few different tip sizes, and spare sponges. One bit of advice – when you buy the iron, buy several spare tips as they may not be available in future! Fortunately with mine it turned out that Weller tips work fine in it.

                                  #336949
                                  Neil Wyatt
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                                    @neilwyatt
                                    Posted by Mick B1 on 15/01/2018 22:59:08:

                                    Solder sucker.

                                    Or does the 'rework gun' do that?

                                    Or don't you make mistakes? devillaugh

                                    Edited By Mick B1 on 15/01/2018 22:59:56

                                    Solder sucker in at number 10 and we lose the mini-clip leads

                                    #336950
                                    Neil Wyatt
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                                      @neilwyatt
                                      Posted by Sandgrounder on 16/01/2018 06:01:44:

                                      Posted by Geoff Theasby on 16/01/2018 02:13:11:

                                      I've never needed a temp controlled iron, used an Antex X25 for decades.

                                      Geoff

                                      The same iron for me and before that a Henley Solon 25W which I still have.

                                      John

                                      15W Antex CS (well two of them) for forty years, but then a 50W Antex TCS and then a full rework station with iron and blower. Bliss.

                                      #336952
                                      Douglas Johnston
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                                        @douglasjohnston98463
                                        Posted by Bandersnatch on 15/01/2018 22:44:51:

                                        I bought one of these the other day. One of the nice things is that additional jaws in any shape/size you want can be 3D-printed.

                                        Observant Model Engineers might notice that the rest of it might make a suitable, short shop-project.

                                        ​ That looks like the very thing I need, but might be difficult to get in the UK so I might well make one. The chap selling them has very kindly (perhaps unwisely from his point of view ) given detailed drawings of the device so should be very easy to make.

                                        Doug

                                        #336953
                                        Neil Wyatt
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                                          @neilwyatt
                                          Posted by Howi on 16/01/2018 09:02:31:

                                          Freq gen, component tester, lots of Chinese goodies on eBay for peanuts.

                                          I know we have now exceeded 10 but why restrict yourself.

                                          Just got myself a component tester (one of the better class ones!) assembled (for £2) for £12 + a self assembly plastic case, all came in under £15 so will not trouble HMRC.

                                          Don't keep us guessing – what are you making Neil?

                                          I made a JYETech DSO Shell, a pocket oscilloscope kit, then knocked up a portable power supply from an old phone battery, LiON charger board, boost voltage regulator and a switch.

                                          scope 2.jpg

                                          It is awesome that a <99p board the size of a stamp can give me an output adjustable to 9.00V, spot on, and then when attached to a device requiring 150mA the output drops to 8.99V.

                                          Neil

                                          Edited By Neil Wyatt on 16/01/2018 09:45:43

                                          #336954
                                          Mick Henshall
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                                            @mickhenshall99321

                                            How about 8 fingers and 2 thumbs

                                            Mick

                                            #336960
                                            Geoff Theasby
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                                              @geofftheasby

                                              John Haine, yes, I too started with a Henley Solon. Still got one. Re: the Weller irons, they ARE an industry standard, but having used one professionally for many years I'm not sure why. The bits are hollow and soon burn through, and the base unit holds only a transformer which fails rather too often. I built my own half/full base unit for the Antex (1N4007 diode and switch) which works well. Nowadays I would use a lamp dimmer or motor control circuit to vary the temperature, roughly calibrated when completed.

                                              Geoff

                                              #336963
                                              Muzzer
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                                                @muzzer
                                                Posted by Douglas Johnston on 16/01/2018 09:43:10:

                                                Posted by Bandersnatch on 15/01/2018 22:44:51:

                                                1.  

                                                I bought one of these the other day. One of the nice things is that additional jaws in any shape/size you want can be 3D-printed.

                                                Observant Model Engineers might notice that the rest of it might make a suitable, short shop-project.

                                                ​ That looks like the very thing I need, but might be difficult to get in the UK so I might well make one. The chap selling them has very kindly (perhaps unwisely from his point of view ) given detailed drawings of the device so should be very easy to make.

                                                Doug

                                                 

                                                Hmm, the Stickvise thing seems to be only half way there. You need to be able to turn the board over and also secure it with large parts sticking out underneath. Which is why most PCB holders hold the PCB up in the air and allow rotation too. There are loads out there such as this if you are counting pennies or one of these which I have at home. Alternatively, you could make an add-on for the stick-vise to do the same thing.

                                                At least the guy knows how to spell "vise" properly!

                                                Murray

                                                Edited By Muzzer on 16/01/2018 11:04:23

                                                #336965
                                                Muzzer
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                                                  @muzzer

                                                  "Proper" thermostatically controlled irons by Pace, Weller etc (as used in industry) cost an arm and ten legs but there are some decent alternatives without having to go completely Wild East eg the Japanese Hakko which you can get from Maplin. You could probably get it cheaper through alternative channels although you may then be risking cloned fakes.

                                                  The whole point of the thermostatically controlled irons is to be able to get up to a precise temperature quickly and stay there, regardless of whether the iron is doing a lot of work or just sitting there. Nowadays most of them will turn off if they realise they are not being used. If you just have a dimmer or a fixed, low wattage iron, you are missing the trick.

                                                  The tips are iron coated to stop them dissolving in the solder. Eventually they wear through but that's not really the fault of the iron. They are consumables.

                                                  Murray

                                                  #336973
                                                  Geoff Theasby
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                                                    @geofftheasby

                                                    Murray, yes they are expensive. One thing though, if a modern iron cuts off when quiescent, there may be a saving of electricity.

                                                    The Multicore rep told me that Savbit solder was responsible for dissolving iron-coated bits, and not to mix the two. I now turn my own bits from copper rod at 1/4 the price of Antex bits.

                                                    Geoff

                                                    #336975
                                                    Martin Kyte
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                                                      @martinkyte99762

                                                      I'm using a Weller WX2 2 Iron soldering station (at work) and it's brilliant. 12 sec heat time for the 120W iron and a tad faster for the 65W. Auto shut down to adjustable standby temp and auto heat when you pick up the iron. Digital setting on the temperature. With the auto shut down the tips dont wear out. Admittedly we still use full fat solder as none of our stuff is ever sold commercially so the flux is a little less agressive. I really like it.

                                                      We also bought a LKPF CAD circuit board miller last year and thats a real joy to use after wet etch for all those years. The nice thing is you can do odd shaped circuit boards.

                                                      OK not the sort of thing you are going to find at home, the soldering station alone was around £800 and the mill somewhere north of 20K but you may be interested to hear what prototyping electronics workshops are up to.

                                                      regards Martin

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