Tom Senior Universal Milling

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12 August 2013 at 06:00 #126753
Davinder Pal Singh
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hi all,

i recently got a tom senior universal milling machine, it doesn't include the arbor. it will be hepful if someone can post a drawing or specifiction or dimesions or pictures of the arbor so that i can machine it.

thanks all,

dpsingh
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12 August 2013 at 06:00 #22761
Davinder Pal Singh
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Discuss about missing parts and related issues
12 August 2013 at 06:36 #126755
Thor 🇳🇴
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Hi dpsingh,

What kind of taper in your milling machine? If it is Int. 30 you should be able to buy an arbor. If you know what kind of taper you should be able to measure length, diameter and other dimensions if you wish to make your own.

There is also a Yahoo group – Tom Senior Milling Machines – have you tried asking there?

Thor
12 August 2013 at 07:23 #126756
Davinder Pal Singh
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Hi Thor

many thanks for your reply, i think it is Int 30 while searching on internet i find details of an arbor on ebay which is sold. there the seller has mentioned that the arbor is Int 30.

here is the link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOM-SENIOR-MILLING-MACHINE-ARBOR-/290865322725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&nma=true&si=PRF%252FPEWqz%252FpbJcd2UJ9%252Fx6%252FeicQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

another problem is that i live in india, most of the sellers on ebay.com do not ship to India.

i have also tried on yahoo group but didn't get any replies yet.

thanks

dpsingh
12 August 2013 at 11:58 #126784
JohnF
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Hi Davinder,

Have a look at this link for information on your machine **LINK** it may help you to identify the exact model you have.

This may also be useful **LINK**

**LINK** click the link for a PDF of the brochure

Where are you in India — anywhere close to Calcutta ?

John
12 August 2013 at 13:37 #126795
Bazyle
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Half the new tools sold in the UK now are made in India or China. You should be able to find their source.
12 August 2013 at 18:43 #126815
Sub Mandrel
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Hi Davinder,

This wesite often comes up when I search for some items of tooling. You should be able to find what you need there: indiamart.com

Your only problem might be getting small quantities.

Neil
12 August 2013 at 19:05 #126816
Davinder Pal Singh
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@davinderpalsingh73138
hi all

many thanks for your expert advice, i am from Ambala (Haryana) Northern region of INDIA ( about 1600 km away from calcutta)

i hope this information is enough for me to get the job done.

regards

dpsingh
12 August 2013 at 19:13 #126818
Davinder Pal Singh
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@davinderpalsingh73138
hi Neil

thanks for giving time, you are right the problem is with quantity they do not entertain individual item sale they are much interested in getting business.

regards

dpsingh
13 August 2013 at 01:15 #126832
Muzzer
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Have you looked on Aliexpress? That site is for small qty orders and they have an escrow payment option – you only pay once you receive the goods and are happy with them. They also ship to India and some of them include free shipping.

Muzzer
13 August 2013 at 01:29 #126833
Muzzer
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BTW, the taper may be described as NMTB30, BT30, CAT30, INT30, ISO30 or just 30 taper. The dimensions are readily available on the internet eg Wikipedia **LINK**

Just be aware that although the taper may be the same, for some of these systems, the flanges etc may be slightly different.

You may even consider buying what you need from the UK. Bizarrely, I found it cheaper to buy 30 taper milling accessories in the UK than locally, including the cost of carriage (I live in Canada). However, given that many of these accessories are made in India, that would be quite remarkable! Have you contacted Soba in India and asked them for local suppliers near where you live?
13 August 2013 at 13:27 #126860
Bazyle
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@bazyle
DS. It would be interesting to hear a bit more about your experience of engineering & modelling in India. Are you a hobbyist, a small machine shop, or perhaps in education? Are there any tool shops around? Are there improters of Chinese made lathes and mills that are now dominating the European market?

Back to subject: If you search for the UK firm Chester Machine Tools, download their catalogue, and look for "Model T universal milling machine"
It is a combined horizontal and vertical machine (clone of the old Elliott Omnimill which was briefly rebadged by Southbend in the USA) and uses a 30int arbor. As this is a Chinese mill it might be available from importers in other countries and thus provide a route for spares.
The Chinese manufacturers can be found by searching things like "universal horizontal vertical milling".
13 August 2013 at 18:04 #126876
Davinder Pal Singh
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@davinderpalsingh73138
Bazyle, i am an electronics engineer by profession but always looking forward to do new things and also associted with students by giving them training on circuit designing.

as u asked there are many tool rooms around here but none of these work for hobby purpose they are only interested in things that make business. the region where i live is famous for scientific and laboratory equipment export all over the world.(microscopes, medical equipment etc)

(my home town Ambala, Haryana, India).

situation here is same the market is flooded with chinese material also the local material & machinery available is of poor quality. fine machinery is out of reach of any hobbyist.

i recently purchased a tom senior univeral milling machine for 2800 USD without arbor.

dissamled the machine for overhauling purpose post a pic of same as soon as possible.

thans for giving time

regards

dpsingh
13 August 2013 at 20:19 #126884
John Hinkley
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Have look at CTC Tools in Hong Kong – you can Google it – they do worldwide shipping with no apparent exceptions. Try going through an order and when you get to the final checkout, if you don't like the carriage charge – or they won't post to you – just leave the site. They do an NT30 collet arbor for USD41, for example.

John
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