Posted by oldvelo on 05/10/2020 02:50:29:
Hi
"As it stands, it’s just wrong to have the head forced up by default. It must be detrimental to accurate work – if you have a hand feed lever, you intuitively assume it’s limiting the tool position downwards. Currently, it’s basically moving the tool to its highest limit – all bets are off in terms of where it could end up in the workpiece".
"intuitively assume" are not terms consistent with precission engineering. To hold the head from being pulled into the job and elliminate the effect of the backlash is with a higher spring pressure to have the head held firmly UP at all times.
1 ) Backlash in an X2 is the clearance in the Rack and Pinion
2 ) The clearance in the Worm and Worm Wheel
3 ) End float on the worm to housing
4 ) Clearance on the Teeth on the Dog Clutch
5 ) Clearance on the Key and Keyway on the Pinion Shaft in The Dog Clutch
6 ) Two Universal Joints on the Worm Shaft Drive
All adds up to an excessive ammount of backlash. Around 3/4 of a full turn on my reasonably adjusted machine.
Eric
Thanks Eric.
What I meant by "intuitively assume" is that if I move a lever of handwheel in a certain direction, I assume that I'm moving the tool in a corresponding direction and setting a hard stop wherever I leave it. I'm assuming that it's not an arbitary position that can then move further under load. It has nothing to do with how I approach precision engineering (not that I pretend to be much good at it at present anyway), but more how I expect a tool to work. I agree that it's not possible to do consistent precision work like this, which is why I'm trying to solve the problem.
I don't think adding yet more upward load is the best solution, for a couple of reasons:
1) The magnitude of the extra load required to resist all likely downward loads generated by cutting is difficult to determine, and would effectively have to be a guess, erring on the high side – which is definitely not a phrase I'd associated with precision engineering!
2) It adds unecessary load on all the mechanisms resisting the weight of the head, and makes the hand lever and fine feed wheel stiffer and more difficult to use – Instead of using gravity to advantge, I'd be fighting against artificial load.
The backlash is annoying in term of feel, but I have a DRO, and use that for getting positions. So if the z-position was to a hard stop downwards, backlash would be irrelevant. It's also not relevant for any operation where I can lock the head.
A further assumption in all this, albeit one that seems valid from the simple checks I've done, is that the fine feed worm wheel drive is not back-driveable (further external down-load won't turn the worm gear). Any further downward movement of the head once set would be due to deflections (bending) within the machine.