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  • #18513
    Antony Powell
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      @antonypowell28169

      Scam warning

      #297332
      Antony Powell
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        @antonypowell28169

        Hi All

        As I am currently looking for a New Lathe I Have been coming all the usual sales sites and have found what I am sure is a scam listed on Ebay.

        Harrison M300 Lathe Pristine condition £3900 buy it now with £277 postage

        now as the seller had zero feedback this instantly flagged a warning !!

        as Ebay limits your initial sales value to a few hundred pounds.

        secondly postage only was listed no collection.

        Thirdly and the most obvious why would you sell a £16000 lathe (as noted in the auction description) in pristine condition for only £3900

        I attempted to contact the seller and asked if I could collect and pay cash…

        No reply and the listing has now disappeared

        So quite simply be warned the scam artists even pick on Metalworkers !!

        Tony

        #297333
        Eric Arthrell
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          @ericarthrell78468

          Many thanks for the thumbs up on this Tony.

          Regards Eric

          #297385
          Hopper
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            @hopper

            That's cheap postage for a big lathe all the way from Nigeria.

            #297387
            Martin 100
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              @martin100

              Not sure if its still happening but CNC machines usually Haas VMC's were regularly listed on ebay for say 20k with say 500 quid delivery 'on a pallet' Photos were lifted straight from US dealer sites, with that intense clear daylight you only get in southern europe or oz or the usa clearly flooding the background windows or building.

              The listings were always in quite remote locations, a village in West Wales, Scotland well north of Inverness, or somewhere in the isles like Stornoway. Nearly always zero feedback accounts but not 'new' they were always a few months old.

              #297403
              MalcB
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                @malcb52554

                Over the last couple of months there has been a continuous flow of the Amadeal mini lathes listed by newly registered zero feedback sellers at around half or less of the Amadeal prices. Last week or two these seem to be stopping or have been blocked.

                Usual ploy, Buy it Now with instant payment required, Paypal only, Listed as though a UK named location yet shipping from outside the UK in a very short lead time. Some have even had the Amadeal name still left in the description. You ask a question and get no reply. I reported everyone I managed to see but Ebay still took its time in cancelling them such that quite a few were sold. I am quite sure that Harry from Amadeal must have reported them as well. Ebay and Paypal must be continuosly having to initiate refunds.

                If you searched " mini lathes" then completed items you will see some of them.

                I have a couple of Ebay accounts and actually bought two of these on one of them and left negative feedback as a scam.

                FYI – you can only do this on a PC I think, have not managed to find a way of doing this on a phone or tablet. On the PC you hit BIN and somewhere in the right column you have payment option other. You then have the option to mark as payment sent. Once you do this you can leave feedback. You dont see this option on the ipad or phone thru' an App. Couldnt do it opening Ebay via safari on the ipad either, you still only got the option requiring instant payment. Maybe there is a way on the tablet which some Ebay guru can sort?

                #297413
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt

                  Yesterday I received two nylon M6 screws in a jiffy bag, no documentation.

                  I'm wondering which scumbag has posted these in order to get proof of posting to show eBay?

                  Neil

                  #297421
                  Antony Powell
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                    @antonypowell28169

                    Hi Martin100

                    spot on it was listed just south of Aberdeen

                    #297823
                    Nick Hulme
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                      @nickhulme30114

                      W.C. Fields quite rightly said you can't cheat an honest man, if it's too good to be true then it probably isn't true 😀

                      #307578
                      David Standing 1
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                        @davidstanding1
                        Posted by Antony Powell on 09/05/2017 18:41:23:

                        Hi All

                        As I am currently looking for a New Lathe I Have been coming all the usual sales sites and have found what I am sure is a scam listed on Ebay.

                        Harrison M300 Lathe Pristine condition £3900 buy it now with £277 postage

                        now as the seller had zero feedback this instantly flagged a warning !!

                        as Ebay limits your initial sales value to a few hundred pounds.

                        secondly postage only was listed no collection.

                        Thirdly and the most obvious why would you sell a £16000 lathe (as noted in the auction description) in pristine condition for only £3900

                         

                        I attempted to contact the seller and asked if I could collect and pay cash…

                        No reply and the listing has now disappeared

                        So quite simply be warned the scam artists even pick on Metalworkers !!

                         

                        Tony

                         

                         

                         

                        I didn't see the original advert back in May, but possibly the same lathe, or by strange coincidence something very similar, appeared back on eBay yesterday,…………

                        Listed at £4,100 BIN (or best offer) not an auction, collection was possible, or delivery £370, Paypal listed a a payment method but he then said he wouldn't take it, payment by cash on collection or bank transfer, and if it was cash on collection he wanted £2,000 deposit at the time the auction ended.

                        The seller had 30 sales (actually I think all purchases), over a year ago so zero % feedback.

                        The M300 was immaculate, and actually probably worth £7-8,000 at least, not £4,100. So why not put it to auction, and find the highest bidder?

                        I tested him on price, and he said he would accept the asking price, £4,100, delivered! – but payment by bank transfer………..

                         

                        I then asked for a collection price, but only if I could pay with Paypal and get the protection from eBay, and after some toing or froing I established he wouldn't take Paypal at all, 'because of their charges'.

                        He said he had had another offer of £3,750 delivered! (but payment by bank transfer).

                        He gave me lots of further excuses, and the listing has now ended.

                        I hope that the bloke that offered that gets to enjoy his lathe………..

                        Like I fell off yesterday's banana boat…..

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        Edited By David Standing 1 on 17/07/2017 13:47:32

                        #307710
                        Gordon Tarling
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                          @gordontarling37126

                          If you list on Ebay, then you MUST take Paypal for payment. If a seller won't accept this, then report them to Ebay.

                          #307860
                          John McNamara
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                            @johnmcnamara74883

                            Hi All

                            A mate just had the following scam thrown at him, very cunning. He did not fall for it but I guess many will.

                            He has a company that as is the law is registered with corporate affairs. Anyone can look up a company and see if they are registered and until when, the review date and also get the ABN the Australian business number and address details.

                            The Scam is to look for companies nearing renewal and ask for a renewal fee. Banking on the fact that a good citizen will want to renew ASAP not wanting to have an unregistered company. I guess they use some sort of trawling software to get the data.

                            Then out goes the email to you >>>>>>>>

                            The email looks genuine and has working proper links back to the government site, it looks normal and you can check your status as they did, All is OK until you press the pay button. If you fall for it the money will go into the malefactors account. Checking the link address will include a deceptive name that appears to be a government address.

                            Regards
                            John

                            Edited By John McNamara on 19/07/2017 13:39:46

                            #307891
                            David Standing 1
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                              @davidstanding1

                              Further to my post of two days ago, my gut feeling was right.

                              I had a message from eBay earlier, seems someone hacked the userid it was being advertised under, which explains why it had been dormant since 2006 (one of the numerous warning bells that went off in my head).

                              I hope some fool didn't make that bank transfer……….

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