What odd grease?

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

Posted by Pete. on 29/04/2021 22:16:23:

Posted by Mark Rand on 29/04/2021 22:02:46:

Posted by Pete. on 29/04/2021 20:34:58:

Could Kwil clarify if the number 2 Castrol is suitable, as I'd planned on the replacing the grease on my boxford vm30 gearbox in the near future, I found this that gives the impression the double zero grade is the semi fluid?

 

 

The double zero is one grade thinner than zero. The number 2 Castrol is one grade thigher than number 1 etc.

The numbers are from the NLGI Consistency number

 

I meant is the number 2 semi liquid, it says 'general purpose bearing grease' in the information I found, which makes me think not, or is number 2 semi fluid, and the double zero near oil consistency?

Pete Per Boxfords' original maintenance instructions which I have:-

Gear Box – Is lubricated with B.P Energrease F600_EP at works and sealed, it should not require further lubrication.

Main Spindle Bearings -Are filled with SHELL Alvania RA at works and should not require attention.

When I wanted to overhaul my VM30, a contact at Castrol told me the Castrol Spherol  EPL2 was the correct grease. It is a dark grey/black material and pours, definately semi liquid.

 

Edited By KWIL on 30/04/2021 15:46:33

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Kwil,

I'm really confused now, I checked to see if I had any of these greases, I ordered some about 6 months ago, by luck it was the Castrol spheerol 1 and 2, neither are fluid?

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Don't know if this might help, it's the Castrol datasheet for Spheerol EPL1. They seem to be saying there are different NLGI grades within the Spheerol 1 range and you'd want NLGI 00 – or I may have mis-read it?

Links to https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/D847D1AA1AD247AA80257F240036A061/$File/BPXE-A5V8K7.pdf

Rob

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 30/04/2021 19:00:51:

Don't know if this might help, it's the Castrol datasheet for Spheerol EPL1. They seem to be saying there are different NLGI grades within the Spheerol 1 range and you'd want NLGI 00 – or I may have mis-read it?

Links to https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/D847D1AA1AD247AA80257F240036A061/$File/BPXE-A5V8K7.pdf

Rob

I'm seeing it says the EPL range, not EPL1 range?

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Well, here's where it linked from – it's not the easiest site to try and find what you want, I must admit – can't find the "separate datasheet" for NLGI 00 they mention.

Links to https://thelubricantoracle.castrol.com/product/spheerol-epl-1/industrial/en-GB

Rob

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

The data sheet you linked, it just says EPL range, nothing about EPL1 specifically?

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Posted by Pete. on 29/04/2021 22:16:23:

Posted by Mark Rand on 29/04/2021 22:02:46:

Posted by Pete. on 29/04/2021 20:34:58:

Could Kwil clarify if the number 2 Castrol is suitable, as I'd planned on the replacing the grease on my boxford vm30 gearbox in the near future, I found this that gives the impression the double zero grade is the semi fluid?

The double zero is one grade thinner than zero. The number 2 Castrol is one grade thigher than number 1 etc.

The numbers are from the NLGI Consistency number

I meant is the number 2 semi liquid, it says 'general purpose bearing grease' in the information I found, which makes me think not, or is number 2 semi fluid, and the double zero near oil consistency?

Follow the link to the Wikipedia article. It has a 'real world' description of the NLGI consistency numbers Like so:-

NLGI number	ASTM worked (60 strokes) penetration at 25 °C tenths of a millimetre	Appearance	Consistency food analog
000	445-475	fluid	cooking oil
00	400-430	semi-fluid	apple sauce
0	355-385	very soft	brown mustard
1	310-340	soft	tomato paste
2	265-295	"normal" grease	peanut butter
3	220-250	firm	vegetable shortening
4	175-205	very firm	frozen yogurt
5	130-160	hard	smooth pâté
6	85-115	very hard	cheddar cheese

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Posted by Mark Rand on 30/04/2021 20:01:06:

Posted by Pete. on 29/04/2021 22:16:23:

Posted by Mark Rand on 29/04/2021 22:02:46:

Posted by Pete. on 29/04/2021 20:34:58:

Could Kwil clarify if the number 2 Castrol is suitable, as I'd planned on the replacing the grease on my boxford vm30 gearbox in the near future, I found this that gives the impression the double zero grade is the semi fluid?

The double zero is one grade thinner than zero. The number 2 Castrol is one grade thigher than number 1 etc.

The numbers are from the NLGI Consistency number

I meant is the number 2 semi liquid, it says 'general purpose bearing grease' in the information I found, which makes me think not, or is number 2 semi fluid, and the double zero near oil consistency?

Follow the link to the Wikipedia article. It has a 'real world' description of the NLGI consistency numbers Like so:-

NLGI number	ASTM worked (60 strokes) penetration at 25 °C tenths of a millimetre	Appearance	Consistency food analog
000	445-475	fluid	cooking oil
00	400-430	semi-fluid	apple sauce
0	355-385	very soft	brown mustard
1	310-340	soft	tomato paste
2	265-295	"normal" grease	peanut butter
3	220-250	firm	vegetable shortening
4	175-205	very firm	frozen yogurt
5	130-160	hard	smooth pâté
6	85-115	very hard	cheddar cheese

Thank you Mark, that seems to confirm what Opie oils told me, and the two in my workshop I opened, neither 1 or 2 grade are fluid or semi fluid.

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