unwanted adverts

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

kailash

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

I have recived an unwanted advert in my messages for Kirit Chandani of Kailash Hind Alloy Industries, Gujurat, India.

I replied, "No thank you"

No polite reply if I get any more.

Moderators please bar this gentleman and his company.

[SpringbokParticipant @springbok]

Have not had one from him
Bob

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I can't find a member by that name can you check it, I need his user name and its case sensative.

Jason(mod)

[MichaelRParticipant @michaelr]

Hi Jason.

I have the same message in my forum inbox, as follows.

Dear Sir,

We are Manufacturer of all type of alloy casting in mild steel/Stainless Steel/Cast Iron with best precision work as percustomer drawing and design with complete machining.

Our foundry is located at Rajkot(india) since 1987. Our products are mached to international standards.

If you have any requirement then please contact us or send us drawing. We will provide you best offer.

Thanks&Regards

Kirit Changani

+919574196087

Kirit.changani0@gmail.com

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Thanks but I need the USER NAME to be able to track them down

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

JasonB,

Under Member Profile, it shows a box which always says "member off line"

In messages, under received date, "new 24/08/2013 08:35:59" This is in bold type, probably to heighten attention.

"From" reads, Kailash Hind Alloy Industries.

"Subject" = "Manufacturer" again in bold type.

Then it goes on aout the owner as written above by "Stick"

Where can I find the username?

John.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by JasonB on 27/08/2013 08:45:07:

Thanks but I need the USER NAME to be able to track them down

.

Jason,

Please forgive my intrusion …

If I correctly understand Diane's recent notes; it should be a simple matter for an Administrator [as opposed to a Moderator] to find this Member.

May I therefore suggest that you escalate the matter to Diane.

MichaelG.

[Les Jones 1Participant @lesjones1]

Hi JasonB,
The forum seems to recognize Kailash Hind Alloy Industries. If I try to create a message to them the name is recognised but if I misspell it (Replacing ie with y) then it does not recognise them as a member. I was just about to post this screen capture to show where the user name was shown when John (DMB) replied.

I have just put it in this message to see if I had the recent problem that others had posting pictures.

Les.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Thanks Les. What I get come up is a box to enter the members name, so I was looking for Kirit… not a company name. Delt with now.

If either of the people who sent it had told me who it came "from" as per your screen shot I could have dealt with it. DMB does not say who its from in his first post, stick only gave the message not the member.

Michael as DMB has now told me it is from K.H.A.I it is a simple job for me to deal with. I had limited time to give this morning as I have to go out and work for a living so could not spend the time searching for all possible permutations.

 

Edited By JasonB on 27/08/2013 09:59:05

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by JasonB on 27/08/2013 09:41:32:

Michael as DMB has now told me it is from K.H.A.I it is a simple job for me to deal with. I had limited time to give this morning as I have to go out and work for a living so could not spend the time searching for all possible permutations.

.

Duly noted Jason

No offence intended; I was just trying to help.

MichaelG.

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

Dare I say it, I have wondered for some time that it may be possible to get castings made in India and sent to the UK for a fraction of teh cost of making them in the UK.

Perhaps if Mr Changani used the correct channels to advertise his services, he might find some eager customers!

Neil

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

I always say I have the best firewall in the world for on-line banking – its called DONT!

In the case of above, I fear that a lot of us are liable to drop our guard and click on almost anything on this and similar forums. Sooner or later we are likely to get stung. I am therefore keen to see only regular users and not outright strangers like the above advertiser who doesnt even appear in the mags.

As regards Neil`s comment about getting castings from India, I would think that the cost of postage would be a little off-putting unless they were Ali/Alli-alloy.

John

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

Has Kailash been “kyboshed” or what?

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Yes he has been sent to the naughty step, never to return.

J

[Stephen BensonParticipant @stephenbenson75261]

Ooh I thought this thread would be about the latest MEW it reads more like a trade publication from Chesters with a few articles tagged in to pad it out that was the last straw for me never again

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

Posted by Stephen Benson on 03/09/2013 08:52:23:

Ooh I thought this thread would be about the latest MEW it reads more like a trade publication from Chesters with a few articles tagged in to pad it out that was the last straw for me never again

'On the editors bench' did it for me!

There only seems to be two words in the ten paragraphs that could be attributed to the magazine editor, 'David' and 'Clark.' The rest was obviously a press release that the editor did not even bother to 'tidy up' so that reading it made sense.

Ian P (not yet unsubscribed, but heading that way!)

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

I always rewrite press releases as they are usually to long although in this case it was concise, well written to start with and only required minor changes.

I have just re read the rewritten press release and it makes sense to me.

Warco was also a press release, again rewritten.

Chester placed an 8 page advert in the centre of the magazine. The page count was increased by 8 pages so no editorial was lost.

regards david

Edited By David Clark 1 on 03/09/2013 11:04:02

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Do readers really want me to waffle on in Ed's Bench?

I can't think why if they do.

Whatever I write I will upset someone.

regards David

[Ian PParticipant @ianp]

David

I cannot dispute that it makes sense, my comment was really that there was no introduction of any sort, it was just straight in and bang. It it had started (for example) 'For those readers who have problems with electrical connectors.. …..this might interest them etc'

The Warco item reads just like a rewritten press release, hardly what I would call 'well written', or did that just apply to the Contralube thing? In the past MEW has had product reviews and trade announcements within the magazine which is how I think these two item should have been dealt with.

My point is that I understood 'On the editors bench' to be editoriol content rather than advertising.

I just don't see why you would call your writing waffle, and as to your last line, its not a very apropriate attitude for an editor!

Ian P

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Stephen Benson on 03/09/2013 08:52:23:

… it reads more like a trade publication from Chesters with a few articles tagged in to pad it out …

.

Well said, Stephen

MichaelG.

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

For me, I'm always keen to hear what you're up to David!

Neil

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

When I started this thread, I intended to use it to draw attention to rogue advertisers but it seems to have been hijacked by Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all to put DC1 in the same category!! In all probability, the mag. owners need to "sell-up" on as much advertising as they possibly can whilst the going is good. I expect that eventually the Internet will devour them and every other Newspaper and Magazine, since this seems to be the way everything is going. Get it online or go without @ sometime and maybe in not too distant future. I might add that this is NOT my wish, just how the world is changing. Wasn`t that long ago when we did not have a phone in pocket instead of the red box 1/4 mile away!

[Stephen BensonParticipant @stephenbenson75261]

You are right of course times are a changing hobby magazines were once the main providers of expertise, suppliers and news but not any more. Information is now given freely because information and expertise is the new currency on the Internet , your online personality/ credibility are very important much more so than the measly payment and the ephemeral nature of a magazine article.

So magazine owners need to create a space for this information exchange not as an aside but as the main feature then they will be able to cash in as F/B Google and others have done. They do have an advantage they should make their back catalogue available at a modest cost and let us purchase high quality print out of the articles we need when we need them.

[Sub MandrelParticipant @submandrel]

I think the publishers get a lot of stick, much undeserved.

members of the forum complain that they are changing digital access, while openly discussing how to make and share electronic copies of the magazine! They should get some credit for not deleting every thread or post that is either critical of them or discusses ripping pdfs of magazines or suppressing advertising- though this may be more the tolerance of our editors than that of our publishers! That said, healthy debate is what keeps people engaged.

I don't pretend they have chosen the best or fairest solution, but e-publishing is still a new field, and the publishers must be looking at what they have got and wondering how they can make an ongoing return on their investment…

I agree with Stephen that making this website as popular as possible and using that popularity to support advertising makes sense. The links to the magazine are a critical element of the health of the website, at least over he next 20 years, and I don't envy them the task of finding the right path.

Neil

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