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    David Clark 13
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      Tool angles terminology

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      David Clark 13
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        @davidclark13

        Hi There

        Can anyone confirm the correct terminology for tool angles. It seems to vary in different books and possibly between the UK and USA.

        regards David

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        #91690
        The Merry Miller
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          David, here is an extract from my apprentice bible "Engineering Workshop Data" published in 1956 by Caxton.

          Hope it helps.

          Len.

          #91707
          Gone Away
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            US (North America actually) terminology is probably best illustrated by the entry in Machinery's Handbook …. there are differences from both David's and Len's definitions. For instance, "Top Rake" is called "Back Rake" and "Side Relief" is what in David's illustration is called "Side Clearance".

            I have the 28th Edition of MH (desk edition now to go with the eyesight). However, I also have the facsimile copy of the original (1914) edition which uses such terms as "back slope" and "side slope"

            #91710
            Don Brymer
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              David,

              The generally accepted terminology used in Australia; side rake, side clearance & front clearance are the same as in your sketch, with top rake referred to as back rake, front relief referred to as trail angle & side relief being approach angle. The approach angle in the sketch being negative. Possitive approach angle, angled toward the right when viewed from the top of the tool.

              Regards,

              Don.

              #91714
              David Clark 13
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                Hi All

                That is the problem, not standard terminology and I need to get it right as it is for a book.

                regards David

                #91723
                Terry Lane
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                  @terrylane

                  Certainly what you show in your original post will be understood in the UK and Oz, probably even in NZ wink

                  #91725
                  Terryd
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                    Hi David,

                    That would be correct as far as the UK is concerned and would be understood by any engineer. This is the terminology from my venerable Chapman, 'Workshop Technology' Vol 1:

                     

                     

                    Regards

                    Terry

                    Edited By Terryd on 29/05/2012 10:49:36

                    #91726
                    David Clark 13
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                      @davidclark13

                      Thank you all, that looks like it will do, suitably redrawn.

                      I have been grinding tools for years but never bothered about what the angles were called.

                      regards David

                      #91728
                      Russell Eberhardt
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                        @russelleberhardt48058

                        Due to laziness I often use the same knife tool for turning and facing. Should I keep swapping the names of the faces?smiley

                        Russell.

                        #91729
                        David Clark 13
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                          Hi Russell

                          Only if you swap the tool around by 90 degrees in the tool post.

                          regards David

                          #91734
                          colin hawes
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                            I agree with Terry and the Chapman version but would like to add "cutting edge" for clarity to beginners. Colin

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