Model and engineering videos on youtube

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Model and engineering videos on youtube

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

i have been watching a lot of videos about machining on YouTube. Many show unsafe practices and some are downright dangerous like the man who adjusted his grinder rest by hitting it while the grinder was still running.

What is coming across is a complete lack of knowledge of the correct way of machining, marking out and drilling as well as lack of concern about concentricity when machining.

What do other members think?

[Gas_mantle.Participant @gas_mantle]

I watched one the other day where a guy had a homemade furnace for making aluminium ingots, he began to pour the molten metal into the casts while in shorts and bare feet !

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

Agree with David about lack of safe practice in many of the videos on YouTube, safe working should be a priority for all but it seems even basic rules are not followed in some videos.

Not all of the videos should be placed in the same category, many show good working methods and are helpful to all levels of ability, none of us should stop learning new tricks.

David, hope you have been leaving your views by commenting on what you consider unsafe methods.

Emgee

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

No, not been leaving comments as I am on an IPad. I don't have a Google+ account which I appear to need.

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

That's democracy at work on the interweb. In the past print era only the elite — GHT, Duplex and the like– got to tell us how to do it. Now every man and his dog can. More like mob rule than democracy really.

Some dodgy workshop practices among the good stuff that is on Youtube too. One memorable video about lathe chuck maintenance and lubrication shows you how to split your 3-jaw chuck apart by inserting the chuck key into its square hole, then hammering on it with a 10-inch shifting spanner. Then prying it the rest of teh way with a screwdriver. Ouch. No mention of the three clearly visible threaded jacking holes in the back of the chuck provided specifically to ease the back off the chuck.

Yes, i did leave a comment on that one. Response was that his proper hammer was outside in his truck so he had no choice! Someone else suggested the use of a deadblow hammer.

Everyone's an expert on the interweb. That's why I think there is still a good future for niche market print publishing like MEW etc. At least what you read there has been through some sort of peer review process, ie knowledgeable editor, commitment to WHS, subsequent letters to the editor from the ever-alert pedants and so forth.

If you want to see something really scary, search youtube for "welding a gas tank" as it's called on that side of the pond. You can't convince these people that getting away with suicidal behaviour once, or even ten times, does not mean it will not go boom the next time you try it. I guess Youtube is big enough to deal with the lawsuits?

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Thought this was going to be a thread for links to good videos.

Still if it is a place to complain if I see bad practice I think it is sad I am so indoctrinated with HSE that I can't watch a youtube or James Bond video without thinking of the safety infringements.

Much more problematic is the way all these videos have some boring old fart drivelling to camera for ages instead of getting some usefull pictures and keeping comentary to what is necessary. So if you are making a video please write a script and have your nubile daughter present it.

[egaParticipant @ega]

I found this rather charmingin its way:

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

In short the web is a place that can easily mislead. I'd hope that as far as safety is concerned people in general would be able to see the problems for themselves.

I have watched a few video's at times and find that the boring old farts often give out good information. One interesting one recently concerned an interest in a propane burner for a small furnace also the need for a more powerful torch. The best advice came from one that was very slow and protracted. Most seem to be gee look how big my flame is or well I use this. Yet another drawn out one concerned using a boring head as a ball turner. There is some good info on all sorts of things on there but it can take some sense and time to find it.

Must admit I often find colonial and indigenous sources the best.

John

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Edited By John W1 on 30/07/2015 17:14:32

[the artfull-codgerParticipant @theartfull-codger]

There's some right TO**ERS on you tube, re- melting[or as they think they're doing,calling it"smelting"] some alloy wearing shorts & sandles & pouring it into tart tins, then the comments like"wow wish I was as skilled as you mate" & stuff like that, when all the time they've not got a clue,but of course everyone's an "expert" now after looking on the 'net, having said that you can learn a lot on the 'net, it's a great resourse,I built my first foundry 47 yrs ago when b.terry aspin's book was the only thing available, but i've learned a few good ideas since & two of my favourites have got to be "myfordboy"[David] he really knows his stuff & is really helpfull too,no padded out waffle just good sound advice & "doubleboost"[ John] as well {& he doesn't live too far from me]. both sound.

Graham.

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

I subscribe to quite a few youtube channels and after. Watching a new one if i like what i see i subscribe ,if i don't i move on .

Usually a channel ( double boost for instance) will show who they subscribe to and usually if the videos they make are good the ones they subscribe to will be likewise.

Here is a few to check out , mostly machining but some model engineering content / interest on some also:

Abom79

Oxtoolco

Doubleboost

Myfordboy

Keith fenner

Mrpete222

Thatlazymachinist

Nyccnc

Keith rucker

Stefan gotteswinter

Randyrichard

Outsidescrewball

Bruce whitham

They may or may not be your flavour but i find most of what they do interesting although watching what some one has bought at a flea market can get a little tedious so you will have to sift through to find what you like.

Last one is AVE (arduinoversesevil) this guy is usually pulling something apart to see what makes it tick or blowing something up ! May not be your cup of tea and watch the language !

Ian

 

Edited By XD 351 on 31/07/2015 02:43:50

[David TaylorParticipant @davidtaylor63402]

I enjoy Keith Fenner and MrPete222, although I wish MePete222 would use steel rather than plastic and aluminum (as they call it). AVE is a bit of fun but have to watch out when kids are around due to bad language which is a shame.

I agree the garage sale finds get a bit annoying, as do the "look what other youtubers sent me". They're kind of setting up they're own communities where they promote each other. Happens with the electronics ones too.

David.

[Raymond Sanderson 2Participant @raymondsanderson2]

Like XD351 I subscribe if I find its of any interest covering a wide range of metal and woodwork. His list is much the same as mine. Only one I struggle with is MrPete although top videos its his drawl, sorry its just me not him I skip through a lot. as I feel he side tracks far to often.

The fellow who is casting in shorts and thongs well there is far more he's doing wrong.

I follow these also as they venture into other areas but still to do with machining

https://www.youtube.com/user/outsidescrewball

https://www.youtube.com/user/titankron

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6HG4kXPSgb1Bhx6CY9e6iw

https://www.youtube.com/user/machiningmoments

https://www.youtube.com/user/keithappleton

https://www.youtube.com/user/steamwally

There are many others some not so great, some its their home business some pure hobby and the size of workshops vary widely as does machines and knowledge. Much like on many forums yet many also have similar ideas or different approaches to what is being done.

Keith Fenner and Double Boost are fine examples of the variations above.

Still like today a mate who's recently retired trained machinist, die setter, injection moulding has taken to a mini lathe & mill.

There is so much to thank so many for……….but I always find if you don't get out and give it a go you'll never learn.

Maybe ME/MEW should have a video section.

[Tim ChambersParticipant @timchambers76147]

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Clickspring.

[martyn nutlandParticipant @martynnutland79495]

So pleased this has been raised. I'm an avid watcher of these videos and many of the practices shown don't follow basic safety rules.

One of the best practitioners I find is Erik Vaaler, who while being a bit 'stiff' plays it by the book and Tubal Cain who is very personable seems safe most of the time.

I'm a professional writer and Hopper is right. Self-publishing means every tom-dick-and-harry is in print and while it has its upside the downer is it has devalued and degraded the craft. The same applies to video-making on machining and otherwise.

Martyn

[David ColwillParticipant @davidcolwill19261]

I have watched a fair few videos on youtube and I rarely pay any attention to the health and safety aspect of them. I will always watch as many videos on a subject that I'm interested in and distill the information into a form that suits me. After that if I am going to use any of the techniques I have learned then the health and safety is my concern.

Anyone who is relying on the internet to keep them safe is a dead duck IMHO.

Also I think that it is very informative to see other peoples take on things even when I think that they are getting it wrong.

At the end of the day my safety and well being are my concern and it is up to me and nobody else to make sure that I don't injure myself. As I believe that I am one of the most important people in my particular universe I take this very seriously.

For anyone wishing to learn about health and safety, there are videos about that and they should fill in the gaps. See here :-

Just my thoughts.

Regards.

David.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I found the first instruction on this sign to be totally at odds with my safety instruction on drilling machines.

Mike

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Tim Chambers on 31/07/2015 08:08:26:

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Clickspring.

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Thanks for hat link, Tim … looks very promising.

Good to see the Sherline being put to clockmaking use.

MichaelG.

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

Keith Fenner

Keith Rucker

Abom

Oxtool

Welding tips and tricks.

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

Posted by Tim Chambers on 31/07/2015 08:08:26:

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Clickspring.

Sounds like an aussie ?

Just watched one of the videos ( making a large wheel skeleton clock part 1)and noticed he uses a little tiny spade type drill to make a small dimple for starting a drill in instead of a centre punch ? Seemed to work exceptionally well !

Never even thought of using a ball type carbide rotary burr to de- burr a drilled hole !

Ian

[Raymond Sanderson 2Participant @raymondsanderson2]

I left out clickspring yes Aussie

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

Just found another – suburban tool inc , oddly enough i was having a look at one channel i forgot to mention (shadon hkw) and somehow got re- directed to suburban tool but i aint complaining!

Hi Raymond,

Good too see another Aussie making videos , up until now Bruce whitham was the only one i have seen .

Ian

[Flying FiferParticipant @flyingfifer]

Ian (XD351)

You have private mail.

Alan

[Raymond Sanderson 2Participant @raymondsanderson2]

Posted by XD 351 on 01/08/2015 08:32:30:

Just found another – suburban tool inc , oddly enough i was having a look at one channel i forgot to mention (shadon hkw) and somehow got re- directed to suburban tool but i aint complaining!

Hi Raymond,

Good too see another Aussie making videos , up until now Bruce whitham was the only one i have seen .

Ian

Thanks Ian I hope to do more and much better. Will we see you at Clarendon ??

Thanks for Suburban looks good.

[I.M. OUTAHEREParticipant @i-m-outahere]

Posted by Raymond Sanderson 2 on 02/08/2015 04:52:20:

Posted by XD 351 on 01/08/2015 08:32:30:

Just found another – suburban tool inc , oddly enough i was having a look at one channel i forgot to mention (shadon hkw) and somehow got re- directed to suburban tool but i aint complaining!

Hi Raymond,

Good too see another Aussie making videos , up until now Bruce whitham was the only one i have seen .

Ian

Thanks Ian I hope to do more and much better. Will we see you at Clarendon ??

Thanks for Suburban looks good.

Dunno whats on out there ?

I thought they had a model show early july?

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