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  • #264995
    Rik Shaw
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      @rikshaw

      I have never seen one of these devices before but its probably because it is wood related, a substance I am not overly familiar with. What is it called and what does it do?

      Rik

      PS If anyone wants to say its a 12" rule and it measures feet I already have your measure.smile

      clamp.jpg

      Edited By Rik Shaw on 05/11/2016 21:05:47

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      #24846
      Rik Shaw
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        @rikshaw
        #264999
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          I think it might be called a bench dog … but sure JasonB will put me right.

          Drill a hole in the bench [preferably sleeved] and you can clamp things down[like a vertical vice]

          MichaelG.

          .

          Edit: or Bob Stevenson, as it turns out 

          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 05/11/2016 21:12:40

          #265001
          Bob Stevenson
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            @bobstevenson13909

            it's a 'hold-fast'….it's for holding down a workpiece onto the benchtop so that it might be planed or sanded etc

             

            There is another part not shown whicch is the small tube fitted to the bench that the toothed arm fits into…then the screw is adjusted so that the pivoted foot can hold the thickness of the workpiece.

             

            EDIT;…a 'bench dog' is a metal stop that you place the workpiece against to pevent it sliding as you plane/sand.

            Edited By Bob Stevenson on 05/11/2016 21:10:59

            #265002
            bricky
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              @bricky

              It is a bench clamp.there would be a hole drilled in the bench and a metal insert screwed into a recess made above the hole to give the long bar something to bite on.you can quickly adjust the clamp to height and when you screw down onto the workpiece it forces the bar away from the screw and tightens the whole thing.

              Frank

              #265003
              Michael Gilligan
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                @michaelgilligan61133
                #265006
                SillyOldDuffer
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                  @sillyoldduffer

                  It's a road map. My old dad had one just like that.  It's a kind of early SatNav made from wood pulp. The lumps of metal are used to stop it blowing away.

                  Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 05/11/2016 21:19:50

                  #265007
                  charadam
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                    @charadam

                    I have a spare bench insert which can be yours for a small donation to Help for Heroes.

                    #265012
                    Rik Shaw
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                      @rikshaw

                      So now I know – thanks. Special thanks to SillyOldDuffer and his dad for delightful daftness.

                      Rik

                      #265013
                      Mike E.
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                        @mikee-85511

                        I have one that looks identical, so I believe it was made by Woden.

                        #265017
                        Nicholas Farr
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                          @nicholasfarr14254
                          Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 05/11/2016 21:18:25:

                          It's a road map. My old dad had one just like that. It's a kind of early SatNav made from wood pulp. The lumps of metal are used to stop it blowing away.

                          Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 05/11/2016 21:19:50

                          Hi, and not only that, but back in Sept. 1977 I spent a night in Abingdon-on-Thames, on a narrow boat. Nice little pub there then by the river.

                          I agree the big blue metal bit looks like a work holding clamp, and does stop the map blowing away.wink 2

                          Regards Nick.

                          #265018
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt

                            It is nearly a noggle clamp. It isn't quite a noggle clamp., but it gives me a wonderful excuse to use the word 'noggle' three times in one post.

                            Neil

                            #265019
                            V8Eng
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                              @v8eng

                              New ones available from Axminster Tools, plus many other tool suppliers no doubt.

                              Link here.

                              **LINK**

                              Edited for spelling errors.

                              Edited By V8Eng on 05/11/2016 21:59:49

                              #265072
                              Ian S C
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                                @iansc

                                I remember "bench dogs" or "bench stops" from wood work when I was at school, but a retractable wooden post at the end of the bench, not metal as Bob suggests, probably that way at school to prevent us kids destroying plane blades, and in fact the wooden planes them selves.

                                Ian S C

                                #265080
                                Geoff G
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                                  @geoffg

                                  Very useful bit of kit. The great benefit of a hold-fast is that, by working away from the clamp, it permits planing or scraping of very thin pieces of wood which would buckle and break if you tried to work them up against a bench stop.

                                  Geoff

                                  #265152
                                  John Reese
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                                    @johnreese12848

                                    Neil,

                                    For the benefit of someone on the wrong side of the Atlantic, what is a noggle? Online dictionaries were no help.

                                    #265155
                                    Speedy Builder5
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                                      @speedybuilder5

                                      Noggles prevent Niggles when planeing wood on the work bench ?

                                      #265156
                                      John Reese
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                                        @johnreese12848

                                        Then a niggle must be a minor pita?

                                        #265160
                                        SillyOldDuffer
                                        Moderator
                                          @sillyoldduffer

                                          Noggle Clamp not well known over here either. Neil is educating us again. He has no grease that boy.

                                          noggle.jpg

                                          Dave

                                          #265183
                                          John Reese
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                                            @johnreese12848

                                            Dave,

                                            Thanks.

                                            Here it is known as a Kant Twist clamp.

                                            Perhaps some of you fine gentlemen could collaborate on a dictionary of British shop slang to help us poor Americans.

                                            #265185
                                            Michael Gilligan
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                                              @michaelgilligan61133
                                              Posted by John Reese on 06/11/2016 21:44:55:

                                              Here it is known as a Kant Twist clamp.

                                              .

                                              Named after the German philosopher ?

                                              … or is Kant American for can't ?

                                              devil MichaelG.

                                              #265189
                                              SillyOldDuffer
                                              Moderator
                                                @sillyoldduffer
                                                Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/11/2016 21:54:31:

                                                Posted by John Reese on 06/11/2016 21:44:55:

                                                 

                                                Named after the German philosopher ?

                                                MichaelG.

                                                Being a pseud I had to buy a copy of Kant's 'The Critique of Pure Reason'.

                                                The book absolutely defeated me. Although the individual words make sense once they are combined into sentences they become totally incomprehensible. I must be an ignoramus, apparently a posteriori.

                                                Any philosophers out there who can explain it simply please?

                                                By the way, a discussion of philosophy isn't off-topic here. The thread title is "It's a what?"  Ho ho.

                                                Dave

                                                Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 06/11/2016 22:22:51

                                                #265191
                                                peak4
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                                                  @peak4
                                                  Posted by charadam on 05/11/2016 21:18:59:

                                                  I have a spare bench insert which can be yours for a small donation to Help for Heroes.

                                                  A generous offer, which I'd be happy to accept if no-one else has beaten me to it.

                                                  I also have one of these without the insert; mine seems to be about 20.5mm on the shaft, though I guess it was 13/16" when it was made. wink

                                                  Regards Bill

                                                  Edited By peak4 on 06/11/2016 22:29:36

                                                  #265243
                                                  Howard Lewis
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                                                    @howardlewis46836

                                                    The clamp shown by Silly Old Duffer was called a crab clamp when I bought it. Mine was cheap imitation, or I exceeded the design limits by stripping the female thread in the mazak/alloy "nut" part. The steel BSF threaded replacement is still intact tho'

                                                    Howard

                                                    #265324
                                                    John Reese
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                                                      @johnreese12848
                                                      Posted by Howard Lewis on 07/11/2016 11:57:41:

                                                      The clamp shown by Silly Old Duffer was called a crab clamp when I bought it. Mine was cheap imitation, or I exceeded the design limits by stripping the female thread in the mazak/alloy "nut" part. The steel BSF threaded replacement is still intact tho'

                                                      Howard

                                                      I think you mean Zamak, a zinc based die casting alloy.

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