How are people finding Windows 10?

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I still think XP professional takes some beating

I use the 32 and 64 bit versions and have no intentions of ever upgrading my computer, it's just so EASY

For tablets you need something more advanced though and I have settled on Win 8.1 and disabled absolutely everything, as I did with XP

I use Zonealarm Pro to block any bad guys

For browsing I use Firefox version 27.01 and again all upgrading is disabled

A previous suggestion to use different computers for different OS's is the best one IMO, good second hand machines can be had for under 100 bananas nowadays, plus an external multi terrabyte drive to back up and store all those critical files we all have

[Roger Provins 2Participant @rogerprovins2]

Posted by Muzzer on 16/04/2016 10:10:06:

If you buy a new "home" laptop, you are pretty much forced to take W8 or W10. New machines simply aren't available with anything else ……………Murray

Plenty of new laptops available with Linux (Ubuntu usually) installed.

[VicParticipant @vic]

Posted by Roger Provins 2 on 16/04/2016 10:24:07:

Posted by Muzzer on 16/04/2016 10:10:06:

If you buy a new "home" laptop, you are pretty much forced to take W8 or W10. New machines simply aren't available with anything else ……………Murray

Plenty of new laptops available with Linux (Ubuntu usually) installed.

And Chromebooks as well.

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

I am now getting the 'Box' every time I start the PC urging me to go, Win 10. I did try it for a couple of days but soon reverted to Win 7. but the Win 10 shell is stored in the hard disk..Updates appear occasionally.

My youngest Son has it installed but is having so much trouble as a business base that he has now also returned to Win 7. My PC is 8 years old and has a quad core Intel chip and only 2 Mbits of memory but runs Win 10 fine.

I personally do not like the interface and the fact that it is telling me what to do rather than let me think for myself.

Also it deletes good software that I use regularly. I will resist as long as I can.

Clive, PS. XP rules as far as I am concerned.

[NJHParticipant @njh]

No Problems…………

Norman

[Martin WParticipant @martinw]

Norman

That's not an Incider picture is it ?

Martin

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Not yet but it is the single core version !

N

[John FieldingParticipant @johnfielding34086]

I had a similar problem recently. My 10-year old desktop was getting very arthritic so I went and spoke to my friendly IT salesman and told him I wanted to buy a new PC but it had to run Win XP Pro as I have a lot of bespoke software that will not run on any of the newer Windows versions. Also I need at least 2 COM ports and a LPT port to drive the radio telescope system.

Well, no deal as none of the newer machines can handle XP or have COM or LPT ports, but they do have a limited number of PCI slots.

Finally came across a company that sells refurbished Dell PCs with all the features I need and they are less than half the price of of even an entry grade desktop. Ordered one to see if it does the job and was astounded in the quality. Inside it looks absolutely new, all the motherboard electrolytics replaced and not a speck of dust to be seen. Outside it had a few minor scratches on the covers but nothing to concern me. And it came loaded with XP Pro with SP3 plus a whole lot of other software.

So I am a happy chap and now will order some more for the radio telescope systems which DO NOT have Internet connections but have to have COM and LPT ports.

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Posted by Vic on 16/04/2016 10:56:48:

Posted by Roger Provins 2 on 16/04/2016 10:24:07:

Posted by Muzzer on 16/04/2016 10:10:06:

If you buy a new "home" laptop, you are pretty much forced to take W8 or W10. New machines simply aren't available with anything else ……………Murray

Plenty of new laptops available with Linux (Ubuntu usually) installed.

And Chromebooks as well.

Of course. I was talking about the choice if buying a Windows machine.

Many companies still will only buy W7 after the fiasco of W8, which is why you can sometimes choose to "downgrade" from W10 to W7. But these are sold as "enterprise" or office machines. For home machines you simply don't get that choice. Microsoft have stitched up the home laptop market good and proper.

There aren't many situations where a desktop trumps a laptop these days but you can use a laptop pretty much wherever you want. Staying with a desktop just so I could continue to use XP etc doesn't appeal. And increasingly, peripherals are expecting to find current motherboards to connect to.

[Rod NeepParticipant @rodneep80388]

Posted by Clive Hartland on 16/04/2016 11:09:22:

I am now getting the 'Box' every time I start the PC urging me to go, Win 10. I did try it for a couple of days but soon reverted to Win 7. but the Win 10 shell is stored in the hard disk..Updates appear occasionally.

My youngest Son has it installed but is having so much trouble as a business base that he has now also returned to Win 7. My PC is 8 years old and has a quad core Intel chip and only 2 Mbits of memory but runs Win 10 fine.

I personally do not like the interface and the fact that it is telling me what to do rather than let me think for myself.

Also it deletes good software that I use regularly. I will resist as long as I can.

Clive, PS. XP rules as far as I am concerned.

I made the mistake of upgrading to Windows 10 on my laptop. I have been using Microsoft products and operating systems since the first ones were ever available.

Lots of existing software (that I had paid for) didn't work, and there were no upgrades for those pieces of software to make them work on Windows 10. The software companies said to me that Microsoft were trying to edge (ha!) everyone out of the market with their own products that would run on Win10.

Apart from that I hated the interface.
So I cured the problem once and for all, and bought an Apple desktop, which has been utterly brilliant.

Rod

Edited By Rod Neep on 16/04/2016 14:44:24

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Posted by NJH on 16/04/2016 11:55:21:

No Problems…………

None here either

Russell.

[VicParticipant @vic]

Posted by NJH on 16/04/2016 11:55:21:

No Problems…………

Norman

Did you know that the particular variety of Apple is the "McIntosh"? Which is of course where the term Apple Mac comes from.

**LINK**

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

I think Normans looks more like a Royal Gala. I prefer a good Russet myself. Wish we could buy Bramleys for cooking here

Russell.

[NJHParticipant @njh]

When I was young we had four large apple trees at the bottom of the garden. One was a Russet – I agree very nice but a poor cropper. The largest was a Bramley and this gave a large enough crop to keep us supplied in apple pies, apple tarts, apple charlotte, baked apple, stewed apple etc. etc. pretty much all year round. In consequence apple anything is now my least favourite dessert!

Norman

( Oh yes the one shown is Royal Gala which I do quite like to munch occasionally – maybe whilst sat in front of my Apple computer?)

 

Edited By NJH on 17/04/2016 11:48:33

[Martin NewboldParticipant @martinnewbold]

I have windows 10 on two machines the main tower is fine and has worked ok to-date . The laptop with windows 10 has changed . It worked fine initially then developed the Windows 10 fault and now takes over ten mins to start up.

I do not have power save to sleep the laptop switched on and it worked fine before with this disabled . The only answer I can find is to put the power settings back to the default to sleep if the lid is closed. My bigger machine has this disabled and it works fine. I have found no answer why this has started doing this .

Martin

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

Regarding apples, the best variety I have found is a 'Crispin'. It keeps until March and is sweet and as said quite crisp to eat. It is a Japanese variety but it grows quite large, about as big as a Baseball..You can use it as a cooking apple also where it retains a bit of the solid when cooked.

Clive, PS, i grow Bramleys, Worcesters, Cox's orange , Crispins and Newtons. Plus pears and Plums.

[Roger Provins 2Participant @rogerprovins2]

I have a small and quite ancient orchard with the usual modern varieties of apple, plum and pear but there are also still a few very old trees that fruit quite well. Nobody has really been able to identify them although there's been plenty of guesses.

PS Clive, how big is a baseball?

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

re Apple Mac Apple.

They did make the Newton Palm Pilot so maybe that is a clue?

Martin

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Pah! Cold Turkeys. Rotten fruit. Holes in the Wall. This is what you need:

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Neil

I'm not convinced that I do Towit -Towooo  (my computer won't let me enter that?!)  – where would I put it?

Norman

 

Edited By NJH on 19/04/2016 11:25:06

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/04/2016 11:14:53:

This is what you need:

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Risky post?

Risque post?

Ahh … RISCy post

[NJHParticipant @njh]

COMPUTER??? Looks like an OWL to me!

N

[Clive HartlandParticipant @clivehartland94829]

Roger,

I think about 4/5 inches? Or maybe that is a softball.

Just been down to the orchard and the apple trees are just about to burst blossom buds.

Clive

[Martin WParticipant @martinw]

Recently I had an involuntary upgrade to W10 from Windows 7, missed the upgrade deselection. As I hadn't wanted to upgrade at the time I was somewhat peeved by this but decided to give it a go as I could always recover to W7 should I want to. Well I gave it a go and guess what I have decided to stick with it!! All the key progs I had under W7 were kept and whats more they are all working fine. The only prog that didn't work was a hardware analysis prog called Speccy; its vital and according to the W10 forum can be reloaded if required.

So far I am quite happy that the upgrade happened and have not had any problems, it would appear to be as stable as W7 and faster on boot up not that W7 was particularly slow. My good lady ran the upgrade on her Toshiba laptop, from W8-1, and this went smoothly and all her progs work fine as well.

Overall everything that worked under W7 or W8-1 is still working and both systems seem to be stable and have no thrown up any glitches, yet.

If it all goes pear shaped I have a disc copy of both systems so that they can be restored to their original status if required.

Martin

[Another JohnSParticipant @anotherjohns]

I hope to never find Windows 10.

Had a Macbook air from my old employer, but had to turn it back in. Expect to purchase another when starting next employment gig.

I seem to have survived my lifetime in the computer field with almost zero exposure to Microsoft Windows – why would I change that?

Each to their own, but of the 10 or so "desktop" computers I have here, they are either Apple or Linux. Throw in a dozen or two Arduinos and…

Just my thoughts… John

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