Fake Mitutoyo indicator on Ebay

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember32069]

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[DalboyParticipant @dalboy]

I just looked at the original posting and on the indicator in their photo it does have the correct spelling yet the one you received does not so definitely a fake and deliberate con on their part I would raise a refund and complaint. I know it was not a great amount but it is the principle of the fact.

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[David ColwillParticipant @davidcolwill19261]

Looks like a cheap copy of my Mitutogo.

What did you expect when the real thing costs £7.50?

Still when you drop it, I doubt the tears will flow.

Regards.

David.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Excellent – it's a fake. Please don't resell it as genuine – a real one costs about £150.

Is it worth £5.50 though? Might be fit for purpose despite the deception. I only use my El-cheapo lever dial indicator as a comparator not as a measuring tool. It's fine for centring work in a 4-jaw chuck.

Likely Barry's fake is based on a genuine cheap DTI movement, and they're not awful. (Main fault on mine is a tendency to stickiness, not that it doesn't work. It's slightly untrustworthy rather than hopeless.)

If a £5.50 fake works well enough, it's a bargain. If I'd paid full whack expecting a Mitutoyu and that arrived, I'd be inconsolable! As it is, the entertainment value alone was worth it!

If only it had CE Marks and a British Lion Egg stamp!

Dave

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[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I doubt that any indicator could be relied on to measure accurately as this is not really its function, a dial gauge should be much more accurate if taking a measurement is required.. That could still be a useful tool if the mechanism is smooth and sensitive. Clocking a vice or setting a four jaw could well be within is useful function.

Mike

[Martin 100Participant @martin100]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 23/04/2020 11:20:51:

Excellent – it's a fake. Please don't resell it as genuine – a real one costs about £150.

No it's £102.84 direct from Mitutoyo UK, and usually a few quid cheaper from well established industrial and metrology suppliers

https://shop.mitutoyo.co.uk/web/mitutoyo/en_GB/all/all/Dial%20Test%20Indicator,%20Horizontal%20Type/PR/513-404-10E/index.xhtml

[Clive Brown 1Participant @clivebrown1]

It's a fairly convincing ad. except it doesn't actually quote the name Mitutoyo in the text. Surprises me that it didn't sell for more, considering the price for the genuine article.

BTW, Quoting a London location for Far-eastern items is not uncommon, but I think it's breaking Ebay rules.

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

Go to the resolution centre on Ebay stating your case & ask for a refund! You will get your money back & have a half decent indicator [possibly]

Tony

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Ive had several years of good service out of a similar one i bought. Cost equivalent of 10 quid with a very nice little magnetic base. I wish mine had the cool mis-spelling like yours though, just for giggles.

Its a comparator not a measuring device and just fine for truing jobs in the lathe and the like.

Give it to SOD who will appreciate it for what it is: great value for money.

Edited By Hopper on 23/04/2020 12:00:40

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Revenge is a dish best served cold

… so, perhaps tonight, start here: **LINK**

https://www.mitutoyo.eu/en_us/corporate/beware-of-counterfeit-fake-mitutoyo-products

MichaelG.

[David ColwillParticipant @davidcolwill19261]

Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 23/04/2020 11:48:29:

It's a fairly convincing ad. except it doesn't actually quote the name Mitutoyo in the text. Surprises me that it didn't sell for more, considering the price for the genuine article.

BTW, Quoting a London location for Far-eastern items is not uncommon, but I think it's breaking Ebay rules.

I trade on ebay and was notified by them, earlier this year, that they were going to start penalising traders that did this. The reason being that people were complaining. That said I still notice huge numbers of people doing just that so nothing much has changed. You can generally tell by the delivery time.

Regards.

David.

[Brian HParticipant @brianh50089]

I'm with Tony Pratt on this one; go to Ebay and report it. You should get your money back but more importantly, you may prevent someone else from being scammed.

Brian

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[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 23/04/2020 11:48:29:

It's a fairly convincing ad. except it doesn't actually quote the name Mitutoyo in the text. Surprises me that it didn't sell for more, considering the price for the genuine article.

BTW, Quoting a London location for Far-eastern items is not uncommon, but I think it's breaking Ebay rules.

Oh yes it does! It says Mitutoyo Model 513-404 right as the headline in the description!

Ask politely for you money to be refunded, and for them to arrange for the item to be collected for return. Then complain to get a full refund. Negative feedback is a good move. Lying about the item location is further proof of cheating the system.

They will just have a laugh unless you take remedial action.

edited  – Barrie got there while I was making lunch!

Edited By not done it yet on 23/04/2020 12:58:18

[Clive Brown 1Participant @clivebrown1]

Soz, don't know how I missed that bit, I was concentrating on the main heading I suppose..

But even more surprise that the top bid wasn't higher!

 

Edited By Clive Brown 1 on 23/04/2020 13:01:10

[Enough!Participant @enough]

If you copy the picture from the eBay ad into a half-decent graphics program where you can enlarge it , it looks a lot more like "Mitutoyo" than "Mitetoyo".

[Robert Atkinson 2Participant @robertatkinson2]

You should report it to ebay and ask for a refund for item not as described. This type of seller does not care about feedback. They do care about not getting their money. Selling it as a "Mitetoyo" is OK, buyer beware, but putting Mitutoyo in the titile and description is fraud. If people don't complain ebay won't do anything.

Robert G8RPI.

[jimmy bParticipant @jimmyb]

I have a few of these "fakes", ideal for rough clocking and then the real Mitutoyos get used.

Jim

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Barrie Lever on 23/04/2020 10:32:36:

I will badly annoy Neil and Jason if I call this indicator what it actually is but I think you know what I mean.

Well Barry, it's a crappy Chinese knock-off and I won't complain about it being flagged as such (but what did you expect for £%?)

I do agree – report it to eBay.

Neil

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by Barrie Lever on 23/04/2020 10:32:36:

I won the bid at £5.50 and paid the fee, at that stage the money went to some oriental looking script.no idea if it was Japanese or Chinese.

I started to smell a rat though, I checked with the seller that the package was on it's way and I got a reply from Mark saying it would be with me on the 23rd April.

LOL. You mean the 5.50 quid for a brand new Mitutoyo dial gauge didn't seem on the nose in the first place?

I really don't think you can complain about what you got at the price. Really, what did you expect? Personally I would reckon its not worth the effort to send it back, lodge a complaint etc etc. Keep it and have some fun impressing your friends with the wonderful spelling. Although I would prefer the one posted earlier "MItutogo".

Edited By Hopper on 24/04/2020 01:03:34

Edited By Hopper on 24/04/2020 01:04:59

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Hopper, You really think that the fact that it should be obvious to anyone with any experience (what about those without, perhaps younger people?) justifies not bringing to eBay's attention a deliberate attempt to deceive?

If the false description doesn't do it, look at the eBay picture close up and see the deliberate fake up.

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