Coronavirus

[V8EngParticipant @v8eng]

I have a follow up app’t booked by my Doctor for Tuesday, then on Friday there was a voicemail saying that it would now be a video consultation instead.

Our Surgery is apparently doing remote consultations now to protect the staff although a doc can specifically ask you to attend.

 No more collecting paper prescriptions either you must specify a Chemist for sending them to directly.

I am booked for a Cataract op next month so am wondering if that will occur or not.

 

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[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by S.D.L. on 15/03/2020 12:49:31:

I suspect gherkin recipes would bore folk here. PM for my best two if you want..

Please post it, I am trying to grow some this year

Steve

A difference between Dill pickled gherkins and cornichon in vinegar. I'm not much of a fan of the latter. The recipes are when using the gherkins..not how to pickle them. Frankly buying jars, the mixture of spices and the cost of sterilising it all and making it up – sadly hard to justify. If you want to do it then look up a Polish or Czech recipe

Recipe1. Take a small pickled onion, sandwich between the two halves of a larger gherkin, wrap in very smoked bacon and wrap again in hammered out cheap steak. Either hold together with thread or a stick through it… casserole with your choice veggies in a stock with added mushroomsand onion. the vineger from the onion/gherkin going through the bacon produces an amazing flavour to the steak.

Recipe2 Now this one does depend on the right sort of lentils and bacon. I buy mine from halusky.co.uk although sadly the postage is quite high.. Spisska bacon and their green lentils (which even my critical wife admits are better than any others). A few thin slices of the bacon diced up fine (smoked lardons are the cheap, not as good substitute) fried crispy in a fes pons of oil. The aim her is more to flavour the oil. Meanwhile boil the lentils 'al dente' and dice up half a larger onion and 3-4 gherkins. When the lentils and bacon are done yu toss the lot together in the frying pan to flavout it all – simple, quick and a weekly favourite

[JAParticipant @ja]

pgk

I agree with you about cornichons.

Many thanks for the recipes. I may try number 2 later in the week.

JA

[J HancockParticipant @jhancock95746]

Easy self-test, hold your breath for 10secs when you wake up in morning.

!/ If you can, you're ok.

2/ If you cannot, you've got fibrosis, or 'the bug'.

Kid you not, from Stanford Uni.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

And if you don't wake up in the morning, your worries are over!

As the late John Laurie used to say "We're doomed, doomed"

But not just yet I hope.

Time to go and join the others in panic buying, I suppose

This will mess up the supply chain, big time!

Factories trying to fill huge orders, generated by computers on the basis of current useage, unaware that sales will be static for the following few weeks… The bright side may be when all the excess stock is old off cheap.

Howard

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[JAParticipant @ja]

Posted by Bill Chugg on 15/03/2020 14:38:58:

Bill

PS Now Waitrose website has crashed. Spoke to them,they cannot cope at present with the on line system so cannot pay for order. Cannot pay for online orders by card at the local branch .

Edited By Bill Chugg on 15/03/2020 14:42:20

Tomorrow’s papers will blame this on Russian hackers.

JA

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Gherkins are best eaten straight from the jar without fancy recipes. In Germany they were (and maybe still are) sold like icecreams for immediate scoffing in summer, and I found this very refreshing.

(Nevertheless pgk's recipe 1 sounds a lot like lazyman's Rinder Rouladen – I always fine-chopped the onion, bacon and gherkin – now I'll try it his way ).

Don't mean to hijack, but who wouldn't rather talk gherkins than dangerous diseases?

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[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Kiwi Bloke on 15/03/2020 09:33:59:

Just a point of emidemiological pedantry…

Intuitively, one might predict that the disease would spread through the population such that the number infected rose exponentially with time. But it should not, because, as the number of infected increases, there is an increasing probability that an infectious person 'tries' to infect someone who is already exposed. I don't know how significant this reduction may be, but any prediction based on exponentials should be challenged – it only 'works' if every contact is susceptible.

A little crumb of comfort?

Edited By Kiwi Bloke on 15/03/2020 09:34:49

Ecologists and epidemiologists have known this for a long, long time. It's only economists who talk about 'sustainable growth' as if there's no upper limit (or 'carrying capacity' as we ecologists call it).

It's part of the theory behind herd immunity.

Neil

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Not wishing to be gloomy but the emergence of “herd immunity” now being used by the government in its updates, conveys to me that perhaps their strategy is that as many of the population as possible should endure the virus in order that they will be immune when successive waves of the virus strikes, then meaning that there will be a larger number of citizens then able to carry on working with less disruption and of course pay the taxes that the government will desperately need. I am sure that it can’t be as cynical as that.
On a lighter note went clay pigeon shooting this morning, when I walked into the clubhouse a shooting colleague of mine, we are both in our early seventies, jokingly said that he needed me to keep at least two metres away from him at all times; my reply was that the government had advised that the really elderly should all stay at home so what was he doing in the clubhouse, touché.
Dave W

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Rather partial to Pret A Manger Beurre Jambon, they stretch the Frenchness a bit by making it with Wiltshire ham but still very nice, the cornichons seem to work well despite the thumbs down from previous posters.

Mike

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[JAParticipant @ja]

Posted by Bill Chugg on 15/03/2020 17:54:33:

Am I the only one to give cornichons the thumbs down ?

Bill

Edited By Bill Chugg on 15/03/2020 17:55:10

No.

JA

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Bill Chugg on 15/03/2020 17:54:33:

Am I the only one to give cornichons the thumbs down ?

Bill

Edited By Bill Chugg on 15/03/2020 17:55:10

Give me an honest gherkin any day

Neil

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Posted by Samsaranda on 15/03/2020 17:31:17:

Not wishing to be gloomy but the emergence of “herd immunity” now being used by the government in its updates, conveys to me that perhaps their strategy is that as many of the population as possible should endure the virus in order that they will be immune when successive waves of the virus strikes, then meaning that there will be a larger number of citizens then able to carry on working with less disruption and of course pay the taxes that the government will desperately need. I am sure that it can’t be as cynical as that.

Dave W

This is the way I'm thinking it

If I've got a 98% chance of getting through the first wave at least I'm in charge and I've got good odds

This one is going to mutate into god knows what, especially amongst the 100s of millions of poor folk around planet earth

The people who get it in the early stages and develop some immunity could wind up being the lucky ones

We live in interesting times….

[Cabinet EnforcerParticipant @cabinetenforcer]

Posted by J Hancock on 15/03/2020 14:13:59:

A right load of old chuff

Snopes says you may be a credulous idiot.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/taiwan-experts-self-check/

 

Edited By Cabinet Enforcer on 15/03/2020 19:31:31

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I wonder if I will be turned away from the local hospital next Tuesday, when I turn up for physiotherapy following my knee replacement.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I may be a 'credulous idiot' but this evening I'm taking the precaution of washing my throat with alcohol solution. I neither know or care if 'Jack Daniels' is a Snake Oil Salesman

Neil

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

Drink enough of that mouthwash and you won't care if it kills viruses, Neil.

[doubletopParticipant @doubletop]

Crisis? What Crisis?

With all the talk of self-isolation I thought it time to sign up for home deliveries from the local supermarket. Let’s start with essentials….

One of the benefits of living in NZ, only 202 Pinot Noirs to choose from. When can I start?

 

 

Edited By Doubletop on 15/03/2020 20:54:06

[Rod RenshawParticipant @rodrenshaw28584]

So, how do you make a ventilator?

To me, who knows nothing about the subject, it sounds like you need some tubing and valves, an air pump, some electronics , some switches and pots to control things and a case to hold it all together.

So, a steam engine builder, a hot -air engine builder, an Aurdino enthusiast, someone who has fitted a VFD to his lathe, anyone who has made a toolbox, and a martinet to organise things.

We have all the skills on this forum!

I guess there must be more to it than that, but they are asking JCB to make them, and it seems a long way from an earth mover to medical equipment, so perhaps it's not rocket science.

Not entirely seriously

Rod

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

Painted yellow and black, no doubt.

[LimpetParticipant @limpet]

Posted by Rod Renshaw on 15/03/2020 21:13:14:

So, how do you make a ventilator

Will there be a build series in the next ME or MEW

Lionel

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I visit my mother daily as she is not in a good place with her mental health, she is 89 years old I shall continue to visit to try and keep her around to see her 90th and hopefully a few more birthdays. Loneliness is a recognised problem for the elderly and isolating them is not going to be helpful and is probably as big a problem as Corona virus. Being a baby boomer who apparently live the life of Riley is not that great, Since I retired my time is taken up with my mother, my mother in law 91 and my youngest son 28. Locking up 70 years old plus people might suit the NHS who couldn’t possibly cope with the potential onslaught if the virus runs free makes logistical sense but it will unleash a mountain of problems if enforced rigidly. Let common sense prevail and minimise contact but keep it human, my mothers doctor regularly promotes the value of people contact for good mental health.

Mike

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