Car problems

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Yesterday I accelerated hard up to 60-70 to overtake a lorry after leaving a roundabout, the car pulled well, but when I changed up, there was no 'drive'.

Basically the clutch feels normal, and I could select any gear but the engine just raced as if in neutral. There were no nasty bangs, no strange noises afterwards.

I managed to coast to a slip road and the AA got me the 42 miles home (only taking 10 hours and a change of pickup) from 4pm to 2 am.

It all seems to sudden to be clutch wear, the web is full of 'it could bes' but I need some advice of deciding what problem it really is, I can see three possibilities;

• Gearbox has stripped splines or teeth on final drive.
• Drive shaft snapped
• Diff has popped its clogs.
• Clutch has stripped its drive splines or the pad material has had a catastrophic failur

Anyt advice on deciding which it might be? I need to figure out if its a write off, expensive job or a DIY (probably only the drive shaft)

Neil

[Jonathan GarsideParticipant @jonathangarside40968]

Neil

What make and model is the car and current mileage would be helpful.

Not saying I can help but others with similar cars may be able to

Jonathan

[HacksawParticipant @hacksaw]

Get over to Autoshite forum , ask them . They'll have it sussed and fixed within the hour !

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

1 Dump AA

2 Find new, much cheaper breakdown outfit – some do home start and roadside for £40+

3 Hope jamjar goes better now

John

[RRMBKParticipant @rrmbk]

Not up to speed on modern cars but had a not dissimilar problem on a tractor where the central splined section of the clutch plate broke away from the friction disc. No obvious nasty noises but the friction disc was spinning with the flywheel but had no connection to the gearbox input shaft which remained static. One test might be to see if the car can be rolled back or forward whilst engaged in gear. good luck.

[David JuppParticipant @davidjupp51506]

Had something similar on a front wheel drive Vauxhall – it was just a circlip dislodged that allowed the first motion shaft to retract from the clutch (as per design when changing clutch without removing gearbox).

Really need to know make/model, or at least FWD / RWD…

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb35596]

Check the gear linkage or cable, could have disconnected in neutral and give you the symptoms you mentioned

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

What does the gear stick do? If it is a PSA gearbox, it could be the selector mechanism. Had two that failed in the same mode. Cheaper to change the box than repair, in my case (high mileage and box needed to come apart for new expensive bits in an older vehicle), as a second hand box was easily sourced. Unfortunately the replacemment went the same way.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Ten hours to get home? Super Adept Man could have flown that in a nanosecond!

But seriously, per post #2, more details of the car required .

[HacksawParticipant @hacksaw]

Does Neil drive a Mitsubishi Space wagon?

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Pretty sure he has a Mondayo

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

Oh you can't go to heaven in an old Ford car,
Cos an old Ford car won't get that far……
BobH (Austin 7)

[peak4Participant @peak4]

I don't know much about modern cars, but I'll have a guess at a blown CV or a circlip popped off a driveshaft allowing it to disengage.

Any pools of oil underneath?

[HacksawParticipant @hacksaw]

You can in a Ford Orion..

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Well I'll have a guess at broken prop-shaft , no noises etc.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by Gordon W on 20/06/2017 10:51:43:

Well I'll have a guess at broken prop-shaft , no noises etc.

That'd be interesting, it's FWD if it's a Mondeo .

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

It's obviously caught the 'gearbox disease'!! I speak with authority since my Berlingo auto, having operated faultlessly and parked at home, won't engage ANY gear in auto or manual although engine starts perfectly. A bit premature with only 8k on the clock! Called local main dealer where car was bought – £300.00 to recover to them, THEN the bills start!! Now searching locally for a cheaper recovery deal.

I hope your problems will be simpler (and cheaper ) to fix, Neil.

rgds

Bill

[egaParticipant @ega]

Neil's AA experience contrasts strongly with their current advertising but worse things happen: yesterday I was told about an acquaintance who set off to drive the seven miles from north London to a central location for dental treatment allowing two hours for the journey; arriving ten mnutes late, they were told they could not be seen that day!

Good luck with the car – a broken halfshaft on an Austin Seven could have been fixed at the roadside.

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Well, live and learn. How do FWD get the power to the wheels ? Now I see– prop shaft / half shaft.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by Gordon W on 20/06/2017 11:18:33:

Well, live and learn. How do FWD get the power to the wheels ? Now I see– prop shaft / half shaft.

Gordon

The generally accepted terminology is with RWD – prop shaft and half shafts; with FWD – drive shafts.

[JuddyParticipant @juddy]

I would guess at a gear selection cable having become disconnected or even broken

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

If I remember rightly AA will only tow withing a certain area so in Neils case he was spread across two and had to change tow trucks.

RAC will tow all the way with one truck.

 

Just hope Neil can print the spare part once the fault is located

Edited By JasonB on 20/06/2017 11:34:06

[simondavies3Participant @simondavies3]

Posted by RRMBK on 20/06/2017 09:27:00:

…but had a not dissimilar problem on a tractor where the central splined section of the clutch plate broke away from the friction disc. No obvious nasty noises but the friction disc was spinning with the flywheel but had no connection to the gearbox input shaft which remained static.

Had a very similar experience with a car with an overdrive – the shock of the O/D engaging ripped the spline section from the clutch plate material. No noise apart from a slight tinkling but no drive either. Box out, replace clutch – not sure if they do that to modern cars though!

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Thanks.

High-mileage Mondeo, manual, although the clutch was changed no more than 40K ago when the engine was swapped.

Unfortunately one of the hardest cars to swap the clutch in, as you virtually need to drop the engine right out.

Looks like clutch isn't engaging drive shafts seem to be on good terms with the wheels.

Just been to dentist, despite being dropped off in Lichfield I had a long walk to get there, then long walk back, then bus, then long walk from bus stop home.

Too knackered to look at car now, going to sleep for an hour or two …zzzzZZZZ

Neil

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