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    David Cambridge
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      For my next I.C. engine project I need to bore a cylinder 70 mm deep and 25 mm diameter, and I’m struggling to see how to do this.

      My lathe is a Warco WM180 and that has a 10 mm tool post 60 mm wide. It seems that 10mm boring bars are 125mm long, so that leaves me a little short in length. Can anyone offer any ideas ?

      Thanks

      David

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      David Cambridge
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        #205235
        Nick_G
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          @nick_g

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          I would imagine that 70mm is a bit to much in length for a 10mm bar anyway irrespective of the bars length. You may JUST get away with a solid carbide bar of that size which are usually a little longer and will enable you to grip it in the toolpost. But they ain't cheap. .eg. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10mm-Solid-carbide-boring-bar-C10M-SCLCR06-carbide-shank-takes-CCMT-06-inserts-/371313481049?hash=item5674021559 (unless you stumble across a bargain)

          Is it possible to somehow arrange the cylinder to be held upon the lathe saddle.? That way you could 'line bore' it.

          Regards, Nick

          Edited By Nick_G on 22/09/2015 00:07:25

          #205237
          Ady1
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            @ady1

            Can anyone offer any ideas ?

            Mount the workpiece on the saddle and use a between centres boring bar

            #205241
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              As Nick says a 10mm bar is a bit thin. though you don't need to have all that length in the toolpost, just the two screws nearest the chuck will hold it

              You could remove the toolpost and make a clamp to hold the bar to the topslide.

              If its the supplied 4-way toolpost then one way I have used stiffer bars is to use the slot in the toolpost as a "vee" block. Thats a 28mm bar, about 150mm long cylinder and the setup is very rigid

              Or between centres boring bar with work fixed to cross slide

               

              Edited By JasonB on 22/09/2015 07:48:33

              #205242
              Hopper
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                @hopper

                Make a larger diameter boring bar, or even buy one, then grind or mill the end down to fit in your toolholder. Or make a purpose built "Gibraltar" style toolpost to fit the large boring bar.

                #205260
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt

                  You don't have to have the toll across the full width of the toolpost, as long as it is held securely just post another 10mmm out and don't take huge cuts.

                  Neil

                  #205262
                  CotswoldsPhil
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                    @cotswoldsphil

                    Yesterday I bored a 1/2 inch hole (biggest drill I had under 20mm) out to 20mm over 60mm with a 10mm Glandz boring bar fitted with a ground tip. The material was a block of 35mm EN3. It took a bit of time, small cuts and clearing a lot at the beginning – but it's done. The hole has now been lapped to fit a straight shank ER20 chuck for my tool grinder.

                    Setting the boring bar was a bit of a challenge at first as it is angled down to create clearance.

                    Regards

                    Phil

                    #205276
                    Paul Lousick
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                      @paullousick59116

                      Hi David,

                      I had a similar job where my boring bar was too short to machine the hole. My tool holder will hold 16mm wide bars but my 16mm diameter boring bar was too short and would probably flex if it was any longer. The solution was to use a 25mm diameter boring bar and machine flats on the end to fit into the tool holder. You could do something similar by using a 12 or 16mm dia boring bar and machine flats to fit your tool holder. Check to ensure that the cutter tip remains at the correct height.

                      Paul.

                      #205364
                      David Cambridge
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                        @davidcambridge45658

                        Thanks everyone – as per usual lots of really helpful suggestions that will no doubt all get the job done. I think on balance I like the idea of making a new 12 mm tool post.

                        David

                        Edited By David Cambridge on 22/09/2015 21:42:55

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