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    greenhills
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      @greenhills

      <p style=”text-align: left;”>I’m looking at buying a surface grinder as I’ve a job that it would be handy for.</p>
      <p style=”text-align: left;”>Which is a good choice? I’d ike auto feed ..</p>
      J&S 540 comes up a lot but have read a couple of posts about them being troublesome. A few available ATM, one has no drive belt, one only traverses one way but won’t return..

      My old works has a Churchill iitc and that seems good.

      Any advice ?

      Thank you 😊

       

      #853518
      Tony Pratt 1
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        @tonypratt1

        I used the highly popular J & S 540 for many many years with no particular problems. As always with used m/c tools condition is everything!

        Tony

        #853533
        renardiere7
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          @renardiere7

          Does the size/complexity of the job justify as complex a machine as a J&S 540.  There were plenty smaller manual machines made for the home workshop which are still capable of accurate work given a bit of physical effort.

          Capco, Eagle come to mind and the EXE is a very nice machine.

          #853542
          bernard towers
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            @bernardtowers37738

            I always used to do little s grinding jobs on my stent but have had a Lip like Stefans for a year or two now and oh what a difference. I know its manual but once youve learnt to rub your head and belly in opposite directions at the same time its fine, of course it may not be big enough ( 7 x 5 ) for some but it works for me.

            #853559
            Baz
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              @baz89810

              The J&S 540 is a beautiful machine but when it goes wrong you need a maintenance department to repair it, get a manual machine and build up your arm muscles!!

              #853577
              David George 1
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                @davidgeorge1

                I was a service engineer in a toolmakers shop with loads of J&S grinders. A 540 if looked after will do you well. They have a hydraulic pump in the body which powers most of the functions ie hydraulic double ended cilinder which when traversing left and right operate a latch which changes direction and the ends of these wear but can be easily repaired. It also through wear the seals on the cylinder can leak but are available and easily changed. Check oil and pressure only use hydraulic oil.

                David

                #853602
                Dave S
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                  @daves59043

                  The only trouble my 540 has given (so far) is electrical – the contractors are in a stupid place on the older ones, and get  fine abrasive/swarf and oiliness issues.

                  I also have the plain bearing head – which slowly leaks oil and I haven’t yet found the time or motivation to replace the seals. I do have a lot of the oil needed tho, so its not a disaster (yet)

                  Dave

                  #853622
                  Charles Jambon
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                    @charlesjambon

                    I have a used J&S 540 (probably from the 1970’s) bought about 15 years ago. It has a ball bearing wheelhead with infrequent use but it runs fine. It also has a Bowers rotary table, a vertical spindle grinding attachment, “Precise” high speed attachment for taps and reamers and splines, high speed slot grinding attachment and Optidress plus 2 speed motor (useful for form grinding) with automatic downfeed. Lovely machne and exceptionally well designed and constructed. Plus spares are quite easy to find. I did have to change out some electrical elements and hydraulic hose but it is all quite accessible and easy to sort out. Really not a headache.

                    #853626
                    Mark Rand
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                      @markrand96270

                      Drive belt is an easy replacement (it’s a specific flat belt, but andmar and/or Jubilee have them). Table only traversing in one direction is either the Z travel stop being triggered and the seller not knowing, the link between the trip lever and the valve being broken/missing or a need to clean the control valve block, in that order. Not difficult in any of those, although the latter will involve the purchase/making of a gasket or two (gasket paper is sufficient).

                      The only thing better than a 540 would be a 1400. DAMHIKT 😀

                      #853649
                      not done it yet
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                        @notdoneityet

                        Surface grinders, if badly worn are a PITA.  I couldn’t manage a 540 (weight and space) so eventually found an Eagle manual machine in good-ish order.  I’ve been happy enough with it, for the few times it is neeeded.

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