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  • #374485
    Cornish Jack
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      @cornishjack

      A comparative demonstration of supplier service.

      Supplier A – order accepted (for small piece of 3mm brass strip), despatched after 4 days, arrived after a further 5.

      Supplier B – order accepted (for 2 x 2mm second taps), arrived just over 24 hours later. Order was incomplete, so phoned to advise and "will be in the post 1st class tonight", received next morning.

      Total cost, in each case, within pennies.

      Supplier B was Tracy Tools, been in business a long time and deservedly so. Supplier A … how long will they stay in business??

      rgds

      Bill

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      #35296
      Cornish Jack
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        @cornishjack
        #374489
        Mick Henshall
        Participant
          @mickhenshall99321

          Used Tracy and they are good, supplier A probably will last all day in business, there a lot of good suppliers but also a lot of rubbish ones, we soon find out who to trust

          Be careful out there

          Mick

          #374492
          Thor 🇳🇴
          Participant
            @thor

            Hi Bill,

            I have the same good experience with Tracy Tools as you and Mick, delivery to me takes a bit longer though, mainly due to our mail system.

            Thor

            #374495
            JasonB
            Moderator
              @jasonb

              Any mention of what the postal charges were from the two suppliers? Also was that 4 working day or ordered Friday sent Mon/Tue?

              #374508
              Steambuff
              Participant
                @steambuff

                Supplier A, if a metal merchant could have to cut your piece of brass from a larger piece, time taken to do this would depend on their work load.

                Tracy would just go to a tub take your bits and pop into a Jiffy bag.

                Delivery time depends upon the method used … so can't blame the supplier for that.

                Jason's point is also valid … people don't work weekends.

                Dave

                #374512
                Harry Wilkes
                Participant
                  @harrywilkes58467

                  Don't see how you can make a comparison (a) the item/items was not the same and (b) supplier B did get your order wrong the first time !

                  #374517
                  KWIL
                  Participant
                    @kwil

                    Been a customer of Tracy Tools for over 50+ years, 'nuff said.

                    #374518
                    Dennis Rayner
                    Participant
                      @dennisrayner52782

                      Used to visit and buy from Tracey Tools when they were in Isleworth! Can't say when that was but it was a long while ago. Always been a pleasure to do business with and excellent VFM.

                      #374536
                      Cornish Jack
                      Participant
                        @cornishjack

                        Supplier A order was on a Thursday, early afternoon. Postage was within pennies. Taps supplied both times in a stout heavy duty jiffy bag, brass plate in a piece of bubble wrap in a thin plastic bag. The comparison was made because the purchases were, as near as dammit, concurrent, so differences were more striking.

                        rgds

                        Bill

                        #374541
                        Steambuff
                        Participant
                          @steambuff

                          As Harry said … the comparison is not really valid as the products were totally different.

                          Item B was off the shelf … just pick and pack …. While Item A might have to be cut from a larger piece. (With all the set up that takes)

                          Delivery time cannot be compared on cost as both might have used different company's

                          Also assuming the order methods were the same … both via email or both by supplier order page!

                          Dave

                          #374544
                          Vic
                          Participant
                            @vic

                            I’ve used Kay’s fasteners on eBay quite a number of times. My last order arrived about 22 hours after I placed my online order! Kay’s obviously post stuff very promptly which is great but Royal Mail also deserve credit.

                            #374553
                            Mick Henshall
                            Participant
                              @mickhenshall99321

                              If I was in business and my delivery courier took 5 days to deliver I would find a courier that companies use that deliver faster, it is a competitive world after all

                              Mick

                              #374559
                              I.M. OUTAHERE
                              Participant
                                @i-m-outahere

                                There are a few other factors to consider :

                                One seller may post your parcel before the funds have cleared the other may wait until they do clear . Your order may only be a very small one and a seller must look after larger orders first , if you were a company that say sold fasteners you wouldn’t” drop everything you were doing to pick & pack an order for two screws when you have a pile of larger orders to do would you ? Postage speeds vary depending on location as your order may have to be transferred from one mail depot to another before being loaded for delivery and can get held over for a day or two depending on how many deliveries are loaded into the mail van and sometimes they don’t complete the run so it goes back to the depot to be reloaded for the next day or day after depending on how much work is on .

                                Just because the metal supplier didn’t mail your order that day doesn’t mean they are a bad retailer – they may have been busy but at least the whole order turned up from them ! If you buy as much stuff off eBay as I do you soon learn to be patient ! I have had orders sent to my post office instead of my house , why I don’t know but it took 2 weeks of waiting before contacting the seller and then some searching by the seller to locate my items , not the sellers fault but tpost office fault .

                                #374640
                                larry phelan 1
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                                  @larryphelan1

                                  I buy stuff from China from time to time,and it takes so long to get here that I tend to forget that I ordered it in the first place [grey cells degeneration] But then,out of the blue—Surprise,Surprise,my goods arrive and it,s like having another birthday. I can,t wait to open the pack to see what,s inside !

                                  The thing is,they have never sent the wrong stuff ! Makes you wonder !

                                  #374668
                                  David Colwill
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                                    @davidcolwill19261
                                    Posted by larry phelan 1 on 05/10/2018 11:48:34:

                                    I buy stuff from China from time to time,and it takes so long to get here that I tend to forget that I ordered it in the first place [grey cells degeneration] But then,out of the blue—Surprise,Surprise,my goods arrive and it,s like having another birthday. I can,t wait to open the pack to see what,s inside !

                                    The thing is,they have never sent the wrong stuff ! Makes you wonder !

                                    When I buy stuff from China I put a reminder in my phone. This has come in handy several times.

                                    David.

                                    #374693
                                    Adam Mara
                                    Participant
                                      @adammara

                                      With my fading I have a 'Orders Pending' directory on my Outlook emails, just save the order confirmation to that, then delete it when the goods arrive.

                                      #374699
                                      Neil Wyatt
                                      Moderator
                                        @neilwyatt

                                        I try and forget what I have ordered, then when it turns up it's a pleasant surprise.

                                        Then I have to figure out why I ordered it…

                                        Neil

                                        #374739
                                        Nicholas Farr
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                                          @nicholasfarr14254

                                          Hi, small orders shouldn't be brushed aside over a larger order, they all should be dealt with in order of being received. I had a small order a couple of weeks back for just four toggle switches, which came from the USA. Postage was zero as I had spent the threshold to comply for it. The order was made on a Friday morning, by afternoon I was emailed to say estimated delivery would be by 2 pm the following Monday. The tracker said that they had arrived at East Midlands Airport at 10.00 pm on the Friday and they were delivered before 11.00 am the following Monday.

                                          Regards Nick.

                                          Edited By Nicholas Farr on 05/10/2018 21:23:33

                                          #374743
                                          Trevor Crossman 1
                                          Participant
                                            @trevorcrossman1
                                            Posted by Nicholas Farr on 05/10/2018 21:22:19:

                                            Hi, small orders shouldn't be brushed aside over a larger order, they all should be dealt with in order of being received.

                                            Regards Nick.

                                            Edited By Nicholas Farr on 05/10/2018 21:23:33

                                            I quite agree Nick ! When I ran my own small business customers requests were dealt with in the order that they were received without exception . To do otherwise, as has been suggested earlier, is to show that one considers the owner of a fat wallet to be a more important person than any other customer. The big-shot/big spender may think themselves important but in the great scale of things, they are not. Deferring to one person over another will not generate a loyal customer base which is essential for long term business survival.

                                            Trevor

                                            #374770
                                            I.M. OUTAHERE
                                            Participant
                                              @i-m-outahere

                                              Think of it this way ,

                                              You are a steel merchant supplying materials for many industries and you are having a busy month , old mate rings up to order 10£ of brass bar and wants it posted . You have some large orders on floor to be sorted and during the day some more come in – we are not talking 10£ orders , more like 1000£ + and your customers want their materials yesterday and they are loyal customers that you have been dealing with for years . Your workers are busting their a@se to get the orders sorted and loaded , do you tell them to stop and sort out a 10£ order or put it aside until you have time to do it ? I know which one I would do ! There is a reason why many larger metal suppliers and a lot of other industries won’t do small orders – it’s simply not worth their while . I have had suppliers tell me that they will do small orders for pickup only but I will have to wait until they have time to put the order together and there us usually a cutting fee , sometimes the first cut is free but a fee for each cut after that usually cost a dollar or two . I once had a galvaniser knock back a car chassis I wanted done because to fit it in he would have to stop the production run they were doing and he won’t do that – I was more or less told to look elsewhere .

                                              #374771
                                              richard 2
                                              Participant
                                                @richard2

                                                Ordered from M-Machine – just three small pieces of metal – despatched that same afternoon

                                                to be delivered next day,

                                                Same with Tracy Tools – have dealt with with them for many years and the order always arrives next day.

                                                Richard 2.

                                                #374772
                                                Hopper
                                                Participant
                                                  @hopper

                                                  Everything I order takes at least three weeks to get here to rural Oz, whether it's coming from Sydney, the UK or US.

                                                  Consider yourself lucky.

                                                  Not that long ago, such ordering required reading the supplier's details in ME magazine back pages, writing them a query letter, waiting to get a reply or maybe even a catalogue in the mail, writing another letter placing your order, taking letter to post office and lining up to buy a postal money order to put in with the order, then waiting for the supplier to post the desired item back to you, hopefully without having to wait for it to be "back ordered".

                                                  Ebay has spoiled us all.

                                                  #374774
                                                  I.M. OUTAHERE
                                                  Participant
                                                    @i-m-outahere

                                                    Most retailers or sellers will have in their T & C ‘s a time frame for dispatch and some give a reasonable expectation for postage time .

                                                    The guy I buy some of the metal I need from told me up front on my first order that it can take a week before he posts my item and he also waits for the funds to clear before he will even look at an order this is because he does it on the side as a way of making a quid from the offcuts his business creates .

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