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    Chris Denton
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      @chrisdenton53037

      I need to cut some 6" diameter aluminium in my band saw. Trouble is the piece is only 30 thick and I need to cut it in half. The vice on the saw won't holds as it is to near the blade, if I use a drill press and hold the aluminium on the sides then put the drill press in the bandsaw chuck would that hold it ok to cut it?

      Thanks,

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      Chris Denton
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        #155613
        Gone Away
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          @goneaway

          I've read that 3 times and I'm still not sure what you want to do. Could be me though.

          First, I assume you're mixing dimensions and the piece is 6" dia and 30 mm thick. I assume (again) that you want to cut the 30 mm dimension in half (i.e. not cutting across a diameter). I also assume you're talking about a horizontal metal-cutting bandsaw (not the vertical, woodworking variety). But what's the bit about holding the aluminum in a drill press and holding the drill press in the bandsaw "chuck"?

          Do you mean you want to hold it (across the flat sides) in the drill press vice and then hold that that vice in the bandsaw vice? That won't work on a couple of grounds. Mostly you're clamping the aluminum on both sides of the final cut …. in effect, squeezing the cut together and pinching the blade. Also, normal drill-press vice is too low profile to adequately hold the metal for cutting. That would be made worse by the fact that you'd have to raise it in that vice to avoid sawing the vice itself.

          I've done similar operations by holding the cylinder of metal in a lathe chuck, then holding that in the bandsaw chuck …. but those were a much smaller diameter and I doubt it could be successfully done on a piece this big (even if you had a lathe chuck that big).

          Needs a bit of thought. Don't ignore wood (knocked together wooden jigs) as a means to hold difficult pieces. Can you allow any fixing holes in the piece?

          Apologies in advance if I've misunderstood what you're trying to do.

          #155614
          ANDY CAWLEY
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            @andycawley24921

            Yes, I didn't quite follow what you were trying to do.

            Have you got a 6" diameter disc 30 mm thick that you want to make into two discs 15 mm thick( less the saw kerf)?

            #155621
            Les Jones 1
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              @lesjones1

              I agree with the previous two replies. A rough drawing or some pictures of how the drill press would be mounted in the bandsaw would help. Is it a VERY LARGE bandsaw as you plan to mount the drill press in it's vice ?

              Les.

              #155622
              Nicholas Farr
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                @nicholasfarr14254

                Hi Chris, I too have not quite understood your question and am assuming you are taking about holding a drill press vice and not the drill press itself. I think OMG's suggestion is about your best bet if you are wanting to make two 15mm thick discs, but the biggest problem you will have is to be able to achive them parallel unless you can temporally fix it to a longer piece bar.

                If you are taking about cutting the piece accross to make two half moon shapes and you intend to hold it in the drill press vice virtically in the band saw vice, so that it is presented to the band saw blade in a horizontal position, this could well work OK, but you would need to mount the drill press vice onto a good square block or large angle plate, or even a good square block of wood as a last resort, to both hold it square and securely. Don't be tempted to hold the vice itself as there is not likely to be enough area to grip on and the vice may not have square or parallel edges and you may well damage your drill press vice and your band saw vice, especially if it is pulled out by the action of the saw.

                Regards Nick.

                Edited By Nicholas Farr on 18/06/2014 08:36:37

                #155627
                Brian Wood
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                  @brianwood45127

                  I couldn't follow the logic either but recently MEW published an idea of mine for holding awkward short ends for cutting on a horizontal bandsaw. Whether it will help in this case I don't know.

                  To repeat the idea, bond the piece to a wooden handle or something you can grip in the bandsaw vice using a polyurethane adhesive; after curing overnight the grip is strong enough to need a hammer and chisel to break. I've cur washer thin slices off bar ends by this method.

                  Brian

                  #155632
                  Bazyle
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                    @bazyle

                    Glad to see this topical question – I just bought a 4 1/2 in Nutool in well used condition on Sunday so obviously and expert on these!

                    If cutting into two discs clamp it at the bottom to an angle plate held in the bandsaw vice and set the stop to finiish before it hits the clamp. Then move the clamp with packing in the kerf to the the top, reset the stop, and continue to the end.

                    I think you were suggesting holding it in a drill press vice which will also work but you need to pack the cut once it is part way down or the pressure will be a problem when the cut gets down to the jaw level.

                    Either way do the last bit by hand and be very careful about the spring pressure. It may pay to rotate the piece but may also cause problems. One area of threat to the blade is once it is below halfway and the balde is effectively approaching a sharp corner as it enters the work. This can cause a snatch and breakage I expect.

                    Edited By Bazyle on 18/06/2014 09:34:41

                    #155644
                    Ian S C
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                      @iansc

                      Think I would hold in the drill vice, cut down to just above the vice jaws, lift saw, put in a bit of packing in the saw cut, rotate the work, and finish the cut.

                      Some times it pays to rotate the work on a large cut like that if your saw is not cutting spot on at right angles.

                      Ian S C

                      #155660
                      Chris Denton
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                        @chrisdenton53037

                        Yes sorry, not the best description! I was falling asleep when I wrote it.

                        6" diameter, 30mm thick. No chuck!

                        I will try what Ian above has said.

                        Thanks.

                        #155661
                        Gone Away
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                          @goneaway

                          Just a further note: if you are talking about the typical 4 x 6 bandsaw, the height of the stock will be well above the normal height limit for the saw (particularly after you've got it in the drill-vice). I have some doubts about how effective the saw will be in that case ….. at least be prepared to wait a long time.

                          Of course, if you have the luxury of a really big machine …..

                          #155670
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt

                            I would epoxy a lump of wood to the ally block, and hold it by that. A bit of gentle heat should make the epoxy let go afterwards. As OMG says, you may need to apply extra pressure at the start of the cut

                            #155719
                            Ian S C
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                              @iansc

                              The metal may well be above the hight of the saw, but as its so short it will fit up through the frame, and you don't need to cut the full depth any way, say go through 4". We regularly cut 6" galvanized water pipe with a 6" x 4" band saw, just a case of cut, turn, cut, The saw won't cut right through, there not being enough head room.

                              Ian S C

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