X10 series Boxford change gears.

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

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I have a Boxford STS 10-20 lathe. This is one of what they call the X10 series. I find these a good machine for model engineering apart from a few minor niggles.

Link to X10's **LINK**

One of the problems with them is the availability of change gears for screw cutting. There was just not the vast numbers of them made like the more 'traditional' Boxfords so 2nd hand spares are limited. Such things as the change gears, steady's etc have either been lost or they stay with the machine and don't get sold on their own.

These are available still directly from Boxford but are very expensive. (tripple the price that is on their website as it's been so long since that was updated.)

I recently came into contact with a chap who offered to make me some out of Delrin. With them having a spline in the hub against the traditional keyway I would not imagine an easy thing to do. He did do so and upon arrival they fit perfectly. This is the first time he has made them for an X10. So I would imagine they could be made for other lathes if sizes etc were available.

Now I know they will not be a durable as steel ones. (but Delrin is pretty tuff stuff) But they will only ever be used for screw cutting so will be only subjected to minimal loads. – He did also say. "Break one I will replace it for free."

I should add that I have no financial connection with this chap. In fact I have never even met him and only spoken on the phone. But he did say he makes this sort of thing as a bit of a hobby and not large profits. …….. They must be quite time consuming to produce in small numbers I would think.

So if anyone wants such send me a mail and I will provide his contact details. – I cannot give you a cost as we did not actually swop any money as we did a deal with something else. But they will not be expensive and a fraction of the cost of the OEM ones.

Nick

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Cut from solid Delrin or 3D printed ?

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

Posted by John Stevenson on 15/03/2017 14:25:11:

Cut from solid Delrin or 3D printed ?

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Just asked him via Text. – They are cut from solid.

Nick

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Don't let Neil see those he will be wanting a stack of big ones for his Minilathe.

You also know that you are going to have to screwcut something to show us that they work ok

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

Posted by JasonB on 15/03/2017 14:38:19:

Don't let Neil see those he will be wanting a stack of big ones for his Minilathe.

You also know that you are going to have to screwcut something to show us that they work ok

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I did not know a 'Super Adept' had change gears.?

I may well screwcut something. I like screwcutting, I find it for some reason therapeutic. ……….. No idea why.? – But then again I have some bits of cast iron that need some manners putting on them that is going to take me a while yet. ……… And there is some JB guy keeps asking me. "Is it running yet." ???

Nick

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Posted by Nick_G on 15/03/2017 14:47:21:

I did not know a 'Super Adept' had change gears.?

Most owners see sense and find it better to change the lathe

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by JasonB on 15/03/2017 15:02:47:

Most owners see sense and find it better to change the lathe

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Just as long as they still keep it somewhere and don't scrap it.

That's just to prove to future users that we as a country were able to make crap just as well as the modern cheap imports.

[SteveIParticipant @stevei]

Nick,

I too have a "modern" boxford. It came with a "standard" set of 9 change wheels to be able to cut ( 39 metric pitches 0.2 – 7mm) (34 English pitches 3.5 – 128 TPI, the tooth counts are:

60, 57, 56, 54, 52, 46, 45, 44, 42

I can't easily make out all the tooth counts you have but you have some of the above for sure. Regarding the spline, I posted a thread a few years back on this and it turned out to be pretty well responded to. The thread helped me! I'll try and link to it:

**LINK**

NB I also have the T slotted boring table for the X10. I've never seen another but to be fair I don't spend time looking, PM me with your email if your interested in details. It would not be hard to make but you'll need a fair sized lump of cast iron.

Steve

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

To further add to Steve's post, I wrote up doing an 8 spline for a Bantam in this post.

**LINK**

Near the bottom, first page.

[Nick_GParticipant @nick_g]

Posted by SteveI on 15/03/2017 17:46:11:

NB I also have the T slotted boring table for the X10. I've never seen another but to be fair I don't spend time looking, PM me with your email if your interested in details. It would not be hard to make but you'll need a fair sized lump of cast iron.

Steve

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Hi Steve,

I have never seen one either. Did not even know one had been made for them.

I have a reasonably thick steel plate that I am going to mount on the saddle after I have drilled and tapped a multitude of holes in it for fixing clamps to when it comes time to try this line boring malarkey.

Nick

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

I have found these very useful for boring and mounting back toolposts on.

Made for a Sieg C6 but adaptable to a lot of things and not expensive.

**LINK**

You certainly couldn't buy the material and tooling and make one.

[EmgeeParticipant @emgee]

Re a Boring table for a Bantam there are dimensions and pictures of one I made in the Photos file on the Yahoo Colchester lathe group.

Cut the slots in gears made for the Bantam using a rotary table and a slotting head on an old Victoria universal mill.

Emgee

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

John S. I think it was you who did a timing belt conversion on an import lathe to save running the noisy change gears all the time. Any chance of a link ? It is something I would like to do. Chris.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Belt Conversion

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