Using a radius cutter

[Chris ParsonsParticipant @chrisparsons64193]

[Chris ParsonsParticipant @chrisparsons64193]

Having just got a nice new 5mm radius cutter, I am struggling a bit with it's geometry!

The diameter of the shank is 16mm, so I thought ok, centre line is 8mm and so centre of radius would be 4mm…so I set up for 4mm in from the edge of the work, touched off and then couldn't work out how much to drop!

The cutting edge does not extend to the centre axis – and there is a 'peg' in the centre so I guess I have to measure this and add 2.5mm to get to the distance on the Z axis?

Of course I can 'wing it' but wondered if there was some formula in the geometry I could use to get it set up accurately?

I have done a (very) rough line drawing to show the profile…

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Looks more like a woodworking cutter. The size of all the steps is going to be important. I suggest you measure and draw it out nice and big then you will get a better feel for how to move it.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Just measure how much the spigot sticks out the bottom. Touch off and lower by the spigot length + radius

[JonParticipant @jon]

The shank size has no resemblance to where the cutting edges are so ignore 16mm shank and start from scratch.

Easiest way is touch the job at bottom shoulder and zero depth, then touch job at top shoulder and zero Y axis. 5mm in Y axis would be full profile 5mm down.

5R rad would cut a 10mm roundover leaving no pip if made correctly. I have a chinese 1/4"R cutter that's not full profile being 6mm with a taper at ends from an advertiser on here.

Carbide woodworking cutters work well on aluminiums.

[Chris ParsonsParticipant @chrisparsons64193]

Thanks all – I thought there was some 'magic' formula that I didn't know about, but it seem to be a simple case of measuring things and working it out…

I see the ArcEuroTrade rounding cutters show the 'tip' diameter so perhaps this would be a good place to start – half the radius down minus the tip as Jason has said.

My diagram was wrong, the 'top' cutting edge is not stepped in so the side movement would be 5mm in I guess.

I'll so some experimentation of a bit of scrap aluminium

Chris

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I recall Marcus Bowman suggesting you cut just less than the full radius, as the slight break in the slope is invisble compared to a tiny step caused by any inaccuracy.

Neil

[Nick HughesParticipant @nickhughes97026]

Hi Chris,

This is the procedure we use at work,

1, Set the end of the cutter to the top face of the job using a feeler gauge of your prefered thickness, set your Z axis Dial/DRO to ZERO.

2, Set the SHANK of the cutter to the side of the job (X or Y Axis) using the SAME thickness feeler gauge as in step 1. Set the axis used (X or Y) Dial/DRO to ZERO and watch out for backlash if not using a DRO.

3, Cut the trial piece untill youre happy with the result, then make a note of the distance moved from Zero, in both the Z and X (or Y) axis, together with the size of feeler gauge used in the initial zero setting. This information can now be kept with the cutter for future use.

Just be carefull not to introduce backlash during the setting and trial cutting phases if you don't have a DRO fitted.

Nick.

 

Edited By Nick Hughes on 03/12/2014 20:12:30

Edited By Nick Hughes on 03/12/2014 20:14:35

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