Super Steel epoxy

[Ramon WilsonParticipant @ramonwilson3]

Chris – it is the standard 24 hr cure JBW that has the best attributes. The faster cure does not have the same strength nor temperature resistance.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Thanks Chris, as I thought they are mostly the two part kneadable butties where as the best JBWeld for ME use is as Ramon says the Original Formula which has a consistency more like peanut butter so is good for spreading onto mating surfaces where a thin film is needed.

I always try and say which one it is when posting about it such as in this recent thread as the rapid and marine ones don't have the strength or heat rating of the original.

I machined the tops of the four squares of steel last week that had been JB welded onto the main plate without them flying across the workshop, so it's sticky stuff. Best not ask Ramon about his soft jaws if anyone is of a delicate disposition

[Ramon WilsonParticipant @ramonwilson3]

Posted by JasonB on 20/11/2022 12:24:43:

Best not ask Ramon about his soft jaws if anyone is of a delicate disposition

 

Well, they are still in use Jason, used them only yesterday in fact

 

'Horses for Courses' of course but that old phrase "Don't knock it till you tried it" could be well applied to JBW for sure

 

PS are kneadable 'butties' similar to bacon ones?

Sorry couldn't resist

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 20/11/2022 13:22:39

[WearyParticipant @weary]

OK, the challenge has been thrown-down & I'm rough, tough, and unshockable. My 'disposition' is definitely not "delicate".

So ……..

(although perhaps with a just a little trepidation tho'  )….

I'm askin' about Ramon's "soft jaws".

(whilst assuming that this doesn't refer to some do-it-yersel' dentistry using JB Weld)

Please tell ……?? P'raps you moulded some soft jaws from JB Weld??

Regards,

Phil

Edited By Weary on 20/11/2022 13:46:04

Edited By Weary on 20/11/2022 13:46:49

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Off topic but we should all learn from Jason's picture above of glued on bosses how one can save power and time machining and waste less metal as swarf by using that technique rather than, in perhaps more distant future, setting a CNC milling machine to carve it from a bigger block just because it can.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Yes replicating castings in more than one way as they can save raw material too.

I did briefly consider cutting it from 5/8" flat but it's a lot of swarf, time and wear to a cutter so settled on using the CNC to cut most from 1/2" flat bar and then added the column bases. I would also have been possible to use even thinner stock and add the round and rectangular bosses too.Though on this occasion I did not stitch drill out the rectangular hole and save the waste for something else.

[Ramon WilsonParticipant @ramonwilson3]

Weary – I think I described this mod on MEM – I recall at least one or two nay sayers doubting the viability of it.

I've had two sets of soft jaws for many years. The first well used and gradually diminishing in material the other still wrapped in their VIP paper.

The first were reclaimed early on by bolting slices of Hexagon bar on each jaw – a good compromise which works well but even the area they were bolted to eventually disappeared. Just about to ditch them and open that new pack I found a short length of about 1 1/2 x 1/2" BMS under the bench.

It was cut it into three lengths then a deep slot was machined in each jaw and each piece just JB welded in place without any pinning or bolting. It was left a few days to cure right through before using.

I think this was testing it – the embryo liner for an IC engine

They have been in regular use since though at one point well into it's life I thought I felt a movement, a slight give on tightening. No, must have been me as they are still in use though closely reaching another reclaim I fear.

Despite the fears of the nay sayers, the inserts have not parted company in use and have saved quite a useful accessory not to mention the cost if replacement was required.

Yep JB Weld is a useful tool to have on the bench alright

 

Tug

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 20/11/2022 18:16:56

[Ian Skeldon 2Participant @ianskeldon2]

Having looked through this and related posts on here along with looking at the content direct to via links I am convinced it is at least worth getting some of this stuff in and trying it, so thank you to all that contributed showing their practical use of this glue.

Quick question is it the red or the blue pack that has the highest strength (in practice not on paper etc,) and where can it be bought from?

Many thanks,

Ian

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

It's the same stuff in Ramon's photo Just go by the tube colours of Black and Red.

I think the different backing is the blue one has safety data for non US sales. I get mine from e-bay, a lot of the performance car parts suppliers do it

Edited By JasonB on 20/11/2022 20:52:55

[Ramon WilsonParticipant @ramonwilson3]

Just a thumbs up on Jason's advice to use ebay.

For some reason this product seems to attract a considerable variation in pricing from the differing sources – a search on ebay soon shows that.

[Ian Skeldon 2Participant @ianskeldon2]

Thank you Jason and Ramon

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