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    John Haine
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      @johnhaine32865

      I wonder if someone could help me locate an MT2 "square centre" please?

      Somewhere in a John Wilding article he mentions using one of these to drive a brass bob in the lathe, between centres, to finish the surfaces. I think it is like an ordinary fixed centre except that the end, rather than being a normal cone, is pyramidal, Thus, when pushed into a hole through the material, it formes little nicks in it which allow it to be driven. As long as cuts are light it should allow the cylindrical surface to be fully turned in one go. None of the "usual suspects" tool suppliers list them and I can't find any mention on Google.

      TIA for any help!

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      #12959
      John Haine
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        @johnhaine32865
        #295871
        peak4
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          @peak4

          A bit like one of these on ebay you mean?

          Regards

          Bill

          #295879
          Neil Wyatt
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            @neilwyatt

            I have one of these, it's meant to be used as a centring cutter, like a centre drill, not as a driving dog, but i applaud his ingenuity!

            Neil

            #295885
            John Haine
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              @johnhaine32865

              Bill, that's exactly it!! Thanks for looking (where I should have looked first). I have nabbed it.

              John.

              #296009
              peak4
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                @peak4

                Maths obviously isn't the vendor's strong point. He had 5 when I posted, I nabbed one, as did you, and now he's only got 8 left if anyone else wants one.

                Seems a good price.

                #296010
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  Obviously the seller has had a busy morning grinding down the ends of a job lot of round ctrs so he can charge a premium for themwink 2

                  #296033
                  MW
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                    @mw27036
                    Posted by JasonB on 02/05/2017 12:42:45:

                    Obviously the seller has had a busy morning grinding down the ends of a job lot of round ctrs so he can charge a premium for themwink 2

                    That's a little cynical don't you think? 😛 They'd have to be atleast machine ground – a hand ground job would look awful unless you spent a lot of time on it. I don't think he'd be too happy standing over a bench grinder all day neither!

                    Also to respond to tother post, the ebay system only lets you stipulate a set number, a lot of vendors just put any old quantity down as they're not expecting a flood of interest. 

                     

                     

                    Edited By Michael-w on 02/05/2017 16:32:30

                    Edited By Michael-w on 02/05/2017 16:33:40

                    #296051
                    Dinosaur Engineer
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                      @dinosaurengineer

                      "Square" centres were also used on hardened shafts to clean the hardening scaling off the previously centre drilled centres prior to grinding. After the "square" centres had been used, conventional cone centres would be used in the actual grinding operation.

                      Edited By Dinosaur Engineer on 02/05/2017 18:48:07

                      #296053
                      Mike Poole
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                        @mikepoole82104

                        Along the same lines as the square centre to drive and centre the job and provide full access to the outer diameter you can get a centre called a face driver. If you ever wondered what the little chisel marks on the end face of a shaft were for it has probably been finish ground or even turned with a face drive centre. Google, face drive centre for CNC and it will show various types from spring loaded to hydraulic.

                        Mike

                        #296072
                        Mike E.
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                          @mikee-85511

                          I just bought one too. New old stock ? Worth a punt for about a fiver with free postage. smiley

                          #296088
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt

                            I think mine was about a quid

                            N.

                            #296520
                            John Haine
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                              @johnhaine32865

                              Ordered Monday, arrived yesterday, used today, job done! Good seller too.

                              #296531
                              Robbo
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                                @robbo
                                Posted by JasonB on 02/05/2017 12:42:45:

                                Obviously the seller has had a busy morning grinding down the ends of a job lot of round ctrs so he can charge a premium for themwink 2

                                Hardly. he charged £5.95 incl delivery. A standard MT2 centre from the site's favourite vendor is £3.98 plus delivery (plus VAT on the delivery charge)

                                Sounds about the same to me.cheeky

                                #296539
                                Sandgrounder
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                                  @sandgrounder
                                  Posted by John Haine on 05/05/2017 12:43:26:

                                  Ordered Monday, arrived yesterday, used today, job done! Good seller too.

                                  The same for me, a good purchase.

                                  #296562
                                  Mike E.
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                                    @mikee-85511

                                    Posted by Sandgrounder on 05/05/2017 15:54:16:

                                    Posted by John Haine on 05/05/2017 12:43:26:

                                    Ordered Monday, arrived yesterday, used today, job done! Good seller too.

                                    The same for me, a good purchase.

                                    + 1

                                    Agreed, good product, good seller, arrived quickly.smiley

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