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  • #201198
    Paul Duffy 1
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      @paulduffy1

      Hi

      Could anyone help me with drawings or a photo with a ruler in shot of a tumbler reverse for an ML10 please

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      #24050
      Paul Duffy 1
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        @paulduffy1
        #201210
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          Paul,

          Forgive me if I reply with a question

          … does such an item exist ?

          I hope it does, but: So far as I am aware the ML10 screwcutting arrangement is fairly basic, as described on p10, here.

          MichaelG.

          #201214
          Brian Selby
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            @brianselby80227

            Hi, A tumbler reverse was described on ME on the mid 70’s I think. I made one for the ML10 I had at the time it did involve cutting a slot out of the change wheel cover. All told a good mod.
            I also split the leadscrew and put a dog clutch in it. Search the ME ondex for mods to the ML10 and I am sure you will find some interesting articles.
            Brian

            #201215
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133
              Posted by Brian Selby on 21/08/2015 08:29:14:
              Hi, A tumbler reverse was described on ME on the mid 70's I think. I made one for the ML10 I had at the time it did involve cutting a slot out of the change wheel cover. All told a good mod.

              .

              That's good to know, Brian

              MichaelG. [very happily corrected]

              #201222
              Douglas Johnston
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                @douglasjohnston98463

                Not long after I bought my Speed 10 version I bought a tumbler reverse from an independent supplier. That was a long time ago and I doubt whether such an item is still available. It did involve cutting a little bit out of the change wheel cover and may well have been based on the ME article mentioned. It has been on my lathe ever since and works very well

                If it is any use I can take a picture. I'm afraid I have lost all details of the original supplier, but there may be somebody out there who has one they don't need.

                Doug

                #201231
                Robbo
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                  @robbo

                  I think this is the one Brian is talking about, and probably the same as mentioned by Doug. In the letters in ME no 3591.

                  Phil (I can never manage to insert text after pictures as well as before)

                  ml10reversinggear-001.jpg

                  #201236
                  Robin King
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                    @robinking15611

                    If I remember correctly Dave Goodwin was the supplier of a neat tumbler reverse accessory for the ML10; I don't think he supplies it now but might be worth asking him?

                    #201237
                    Ady1
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                      @ady1

                      There are a lot of interesting mods for an ml10 over the years

                      From the index 3837 has a screwcutting dog clutch and 3978 has an award winning micro-mill

                      #201238
                      NJH
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                        @njh

                         

                        Robin is quite correct – Dave Goodwin did indeed supply such an item.

                        The only modification to the machine was to cut a recess in the change wheel cover.

                        Worthwhile if you can find one.

                        Norman

                        PS. You can  also see in the photo my "home made" version of the leadscrew clutch – another useful mod.

                        ml 10 carrige 2.jpg

                        ml10 leadscrew clutch.jpg

                        Edited By NJH on 21/08/2015 11:05:52

                        #201257
                        Neil Wyatt
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                          @neilwyatt

                          > Phil (I can never manage to insert text after pictures as well as before)

                          Click picture, hit right cursor button, press return.

                           

                          Norman –

                          More or less what I plan for the Adept leadscrew, that photo will be a useful reference.

                          Neil

                           

                          Edited By Neil Wyatt on 21/08/2015 12:20:09

                          #201309
                          Ajohnw
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                            @ajohnw51620

                            They provided an extra stud for cutting left hand threads rather than a tumbler reverse. They show the arrangement on lathes co uk.

                             

                            If the lathe is being set up for a specific thread this isn't that inconvenient really.

                            Yuck that is the clamp up bearing model rather than the later one which used taper rollers which can be replaced fairly easily.

                            John

                            Edited By John W1 on 21/08/2015 15:25:42

                            #202855
                            Massimo Dalmonte
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                              @massimodalmonte45801

                              Hi everybody,

                              I always wanted to add a tumbler reverse to my ML10, buying or making one.

                              Didn't know about the Dave Goodwin one, but another was sold by mr. Dave Noble:

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                              when I contacted him (2010), he hadn't any of them anymore and subsequent requests to buy some form of drawing got no replies.

                              Another model of tumbler was described by mr R.G.Seiman on Model Engineer (19 october 1979) in the following interesting article::

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                              c.jpg

                              I found these pics on the web some time ago, so I can't give credits to the people who uploaded them..

                              After seeing the model shown in Robbo's post, I think I have no more excuses and I have to decide which one I'll make.

                              Cheers,

                              Massimo

                              #202867
                              NJH
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                                @njh

                                Massimo

                                Yes – quite right Dave NOBLE it was – my excuse is advanced years and knowing a Dave Goodwin in the dim and distant past !

                                It was a useful mod – especially as it was possible to select the mid position and remove the drive to the lead screw. That done it was much quieter and, by disconnecting the lead screw by means of the lead screw clutch, a fine hand feed to the carriage could be made by means of the leadscrew hand wheel.

                                Still remember my ML10 with affection!

                                Norman

                                #204327
                                Paul Duffy 1
                                Participant
                                  @paulduffy1

                                  Hi

                                  Thanks to everyone most helpful. Should be able to make one now

                                  regards Paul

                                  #205842
                                  sfurini
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                                    @sfurini

                                    HI

                                    I've got one of these Noble tumbler reverse levers…but with stripped wheels! Can anyone point me towards where I could find replacements?

                                    Cheers

                                    Stewart

                                    #211209
                                    Matt Inkel
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                                      @mattinkel67388

                                      Sfurini … RDG tools or go direct to Myford ..I have the opposite problem ..I know where to get the gears but dont have the Noble tumbler handle!

                                      Matt

                                      #211212
                                      sfurini
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                                        @sfurini

                                        Thanks Matt

                                        I've found a couple of 20 wheels on ebay – an 18 and 20 tooth set were being sold for the ML7 and it occurred to me that I could ask for two 20 wheels. I've had to go with a metal 25 tooth wheel but I think with the plastic 20 wheels I've got I'll be ok.

                                        Cheers again

                                        Stewart

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