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    Roderick Jenkins
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      Dave,

      We shall have to differ on that. I believe in a bit of tolerance.

      Stay well smiley

      Rod

      Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 30/04/2020 10:39:54

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      #468081
      Martin Kyte
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        @martinkyte99762

        Perhaps if we haddn't eaten all the fish?

        regards Martin

        #468083
        Frances IoM
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          @francesiom58905

          I wonder if Herring Gulls were the first protected species of bird in the British Isles as there is an early 17th Manx regulation that they are not to be molested as their presence signals where the all important herring may be caught

          #468084
          Clive Hartland
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            @clivehartland94829

            On a hot day just before a thunderstorm the Ants fly out, this triggers a massive Seagull congregation and they wheel about the sky catching the virgin Queen ants as they fly to mate. Not just a few birds but in their hundreds around the Medway estuary.

            #468087
            Bill Davies 2
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              @billdavies2

              Clive, I only noticed this a few years ago, I have a video I can't can't upload. The birds wheel about silently, briefly squawking at any noisy ones joining them. I realised last year that it was flying ants that they were taking, bobbing their heads to catch them in flight. Quite a sight. But the seagulls do seem noisier this year, or perhaps the enforced quiet makes it seem so.

              Bill

              #468092
              not done it yet
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                Posted by Frances IoM on 30/04/2020 11:21:56:
                I wonder if Herring Gulls were the first protected species of bird in the British Isles as there is an early 17th Manx regulation that they are not to be molested as their presence signals where the all important herring may be caught

                Don’t know how long the ravens in the Tower of London have been protected?

                #468095
                Vic
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                  Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 30/04/2020 10:39:02:

                  Dave,

                  We shall have to differ on that. I believe in a bit of tolerance.

                  Stay well smiley

                  Rod

                  Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 30/04/2020 10:39:54

                  I agree Rod. It would be a very sad place without our wildlife.

                  #468115
                  Guy Lamb
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                    @guylamb68056

                    Like most things to do with the environment and gulls specifically, it's all our faults. If we didn't waste thousands of tons of food every year by throwing it in the bin because the 'use by' date has passed and consigning it to land fill or used our noses instead to test weather food was fit to eat and also our nasty little habit of eating food on the hoof, discarding anything we do not consume on the street we would not have a problem with gulls or rats. To bastardise Parkinsons Law: Population expands to the limit of the available food.

                    #468118
                    JA
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                      @ja
                      Posted by Guy Lamb on 30/04/2020 13:01:59:

                      To bastardise Parkinsons Law: Population expands to the limit of the available food.

                      The Rev. Thomas Malthus, 1766 to 1834.

                      JA

                      #468128
                      Samsaranda
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                        @samsaranda

                        My apologies if I offended you Rod, I am very into wildlife preservation, we have plenty of species inhabiting our large garden and in past years have had hedgehogs breeding there amongst many others. I just get frustrated with Gulls though with their invasions that are noisy and messy. I agree humans are responsible for the Gulls behaviour as we have modified their behaviour and moved them from their natural habitats, so perhaps I need to direct my frustrations at our fellow man.
                        Dave W

                        #468130
                        Ady1
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                          Posted by Martin Kyte on 30/04/2020 11:17:45:

                          Perhaps if we haddn't eaten all the fish?

                          regards Martin

                          Spot on

                          We've hoovered almost every living thing from our coastlines, only deep sea fishing remains

                          I gave up sea fishing, a lifelong hobby, because of the unbelievable drop in baitfish around our coasts

                          Our coastline is a desert compared to 40 years ago

                          Stuff like mackrel only survives because it migrates, anything that stayed put around the UK coast got eaten into oblivion years ago

                          Edited By Ady1 on 30/04/2020 14:32:25

                          #468132
                          Ady1
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                            @ady1

                            You need conservation zones, any commercial fishing vessel found inside a zone gets arrested and scrapped

                            THIS is what happens when commercial fishing boats are scared away from an area, the recovery rate for fish is almost unbelievable

                            **LINK**

                            #468154
                            Frances IoM
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                              @francesiom58905

                              try this on scottish boats known for pillaging + wrecking known Manx conservation zones for shell fish in search for the large scallops that fetch high prices – they are notorious for turning off transponders – one Manx minister for Ag + Fish explained to me post a talk that it wasn’t worth the expense of fighting the large Scottish Gov supported company whose boats are apparently owned by their skippers and not the company.

                              #468185
                              Howard Lewis
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                                @howardlewis46836

                                Sadly, Frances, Greed overcomes common sense at almost every turn.

                                Having said that, it is good to see that in the present situation kindness and generosity are not yet extinct.

                                Rod is right, tolerance is necessary for us all to survive, although some times it can be a struggle

                                Howard

                                #468202
                                Roderick Jenkins
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                                  @roderickjenkins93242

                                  Living 500 yards from Christchurch harbour, our car is on a regular gull flight path. It never stays clean for more than a day – it can be very frustrating. I have to keep reminding my wife that it's her car, registered in her name devil

                                  Stay well everyone,

                                  Rod

                                  #468218
                                  norman valentine
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                                    If you leave the seagull crap on your car for too long it will remove the paint . It happened to my car.

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