Hiding in plain sight

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

Bit like getting distracted and then can not remember where you put the last thing in your hand down, a school of though says just say the name of the item and you will see it more easily (c/o QI).

Probably not likely to happen if it's a pint of beer

 

Bob

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 15/12/2014 12:44:47

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Like when I lost the little ring spanner I was making for a couple of days. Under a bit of card right in the middle of the bench.

By the time it was found I lost the packet with the rings it fits in, they eventually 'appeared' having merged into another plastic bag.

neil

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

What we all need is an efficient OR assistant. Just say "2 BA second tap" for example and she hands you one

Russell.

[davebParticipant @daveb17630]

Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 15/12/2014 14:47:51:

What we all need is an efficient OR assistant. Just say "2 BA second tap" for example and she hands you one

Russell.

Problem solved! All we need to do is get our wives in the shed to supervise.

Dave

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Perhaps we need better computers in the workshop.

"9mm slot drill, Siri"

"I'm sorry I can't locate that right now, but here's what I found on the web."

"Open the motor compartment doors Hal."

"I'm sorry, I can't do that right now, Dave."

"Deep Thought, what is the answer to life, the universe and the correct infeed in thou for a 0.5 module gear cutter?"

"42"

"Orac, compute the optimum tool path for a one-hundred and fifty-six thou widget"

"……………….;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;zzzt!"

Well, one out of four isn't bad…

Neil

[Ian WelfordParticipant @ianwelford58739]

I'm sorry, did I read that correctly Dave ??

have our wives / girlfriends/ mistresses IN THE SAME SHED TO SUPERVISE?????

It's bad enough when you get comparisons to shoe shops when you arrive back from Rufforth ( or MEX) with your loot ( sorry carefully acquired items that are ABSOLUTELY NEEDED although often I can't recall quite why at the time of interrogation ( sorry comment ) but to invite criticism in the man shed voluntarily????

Hang your head in shame that man!

Highly miffed of Yorkshire!

[Roger Williams 2Participant @rogerwilliams2]

Dont think the wife would like the mistress in the shed wth her and me at the same time

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

> It's bad enough when you get comparisons to shoe shops

You too eh?

I got "Don't complain about a hole in your trainers when you come back from London with a bag of toys."

Neil

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Can't find the handbrake!

Astra estare hire car fifteen years newer than my newest vehicle. Could it be this lever by the steering wheel like a deux chevaux? Ooops no.
Well why on earth make the thing electric. Lucky my trip didn't involve a hill start. All this technogizmo but no flat surface to balance the sat nav 'cos the rubber suction cup thing always gives out after about an hour. Thing kept turning itself off at traffic lights too – nice little earner for battery mfrs but the second hand value of these things is going to be seriously compromised. I'll keep the Landy for another decade.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Warm starts don't strain the battery much, extra battery costs will be balanced by fuel savings!

Neil

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

A large number of cars these days feature electric handbrake and stop start, the stop start (eco) on our 2012 Astra Elite 2.0 CDTI you can turn off by pressing button marked ECO, normal handbrake though. I assume electric handbrakes fail safe with a flat battery, if they do then not a lot of use if you want to tow the car with a flat battery.

As further change a lot of Auto cars are not really Auto as they have a manual box that is operated by the computer.

Bob

[Bodgit Fixit and RunParticipant @bodgitfixitandrun]

Nice weather int it?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 18/12/2014 14:12:59:

Warm starts don't strain the battery much, extra battery costs will be balanced by fuel savings!

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But where does the cost of replacing the worn-out starter motor get balanced-out?

MichaelG.

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Edit: Out of idle [no pun intended] curiosity, I just found this discussion. … Pure farce … I think "Bi, Fi and R" has a good point: "Nice weather int it?

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 18/12/2014 23:12:18

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 18/12/2014 23:16:01

[RobboParticipant @robbo]

Bob,

my car's electric handbrake has a manual override for that instance. Trouble is, you have to take up the floor mats and remove a plate in the floor and insert a windey tool into the mechanism to do it!

Edited By Robbo on 18/12/2014 23:48:54

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Brilliant things these modern cars- until you try to fix it.

[OuBallieParticipant @ouballie]

The car manufacturers have what they always wanted!

Cars you and I can no longer repair at home.

Remember when HM Govt tried to bribe us to bin our old cars, but failed.

Well the EU has come to their rescue.

I love my pre-'70s cars.

Geoff – I lift their bonnets and know what to do, not so with my modern.

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

A few years back I built a model of a workshop, along with some tools, among the tools were a pair of Footprint pipe tongs/pliers a bit less that an inch long, no sooner I had made them than one of the little fellows found them, and took them away, so I made another pair, now I'v got two pair (they only take an hour or so to make). That's a bit of 5 mm tube from a telescopic radio aerial in the vice. Sorry about the slotted screw in the vice, couldn't be bothered making a hex head bolt.

Ian S C

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

I like the vice very much.

Neil

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/12/2014 12:30:43:

I like the vice very much.

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+1

MichaelG.

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Used to be a time when you had to remove your engine and / or strip it down as a matter of course because they were so crap – I know because I spent years doing it myself. Nowadays most cars reach end of life without even the head needing to come off. If you buy a decent vehicle (dare I say something like a Honda, aka "the engineer's car&quot, it will barely need you to lift the bonnet other than to top up the washer fluid. That's despite all the advances that have given us much better fuel consumption, almost zero noxious emissions and much better performance, safety and refinement.

There was once a time (back in the 70s and 80s) when you could lift the bonnet and see the road between the engine and the body. Now the engine bay (and the underarches, bumpers etc) are chocablock with stuff. The improved reliability comes despite that increase in complexity. Pretty amazing what has been achieved – by engineers of course!! It's nothing to do with the EU but instead the constant march of progress.

I've done hundreds of thousands of miles in my various Hondas without the slightest problem. I may have been luckier than some owners but by and large it's simply down to good engineering.

Murray

[Speedy Builder5Participant @speedybuilder5]

Not sure this is the right place, but will follow the trend. I have a Renault Clio Mk IV, with stop start.

Question, how long will the starter motor last if you live/drive in an urban area, and the CO2 saved during the life of the starter motor is probably less than the CO2 used to produce,deliver and heat the workshop where the new starter is fitted.

Are there any statistics to be found on CO2 for production versus CO2 saved during the life of a product?

BobH

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

I worked on a Chevrolet Camero once and you could stand beside the engine in the engine bay (it was a straight six). I have never seen anything so agricultural that was not on a farm. It was jokingly said that the last check on the Rover 800 V8 was to throw a handfull of rice into the engine bay and if any fell through to the ground then something had been left off.

It would be very interesting to know the total energy consumption of equipment, from manufacturing the item,it's useful life and the recycling it. I suspect the cost of manufacturing a product that has low energy consumption during its working life may offset some of the savings from it's low energy useful life. I think we maybe being conned as most of this low energy stuff carries a premium purchase price.

Mike

[Mick HenshallParticipant @mickhenshall99321]

I have a series 2a 1970 landrover, if it misbehaves I threaten it with a 2lb hammer and hey suddenly it works again

British engineering at its best, but strangely I call it Herman

Mick H

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

> Are there any statistics to be found on CO2 for production versus CO2 saved during the life of a product?

Hi Bob,

Some interesting issues:

A large-medium car uses as much CO2 to make as to run, more or less.

Vegetarians like me can console themselves that not eating meat saves enough CO2 to offset using a car

Two people in a small car on a long journey create less CO2 than if they had gone by coach, and not much more than going by train.

One person in a big car produces more CO2 than flying…

Long and short of it, if you regularly have two or more people in a car with modest emissions (my LPG Astra or my wife's Diesel Mondeo) stop feeling guilty!

If you storm up and down in a ratty petrol landrover on your own, shame on you

Neil

[Jerry WrayParticipant @jerrywray14030]

All this talk of cars and their reliability reminds me of a (luckily) company car I was once provided with, reputedly the most unreliable car ever produced anywhere Vauxhall HB, and white at that. One year it did over 86,000 miles, mostly at emulating today's auto stop/start models before it was invented. It even let me down several times on Salisbury Plain, once in blinding snow. No wonder I took the family dog for company.

I too have stuck with Land Rovers ever since

Jerry

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