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    Ian Skeldon 2
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      Neil, I believe I now have drill envey.

      I just checked my original post, glad to see I wasn't actually slagging off all chinese machines, just mine.I guess it's easy to mis-interpret what I actually said.

      So yes my drill is pretty dire, but it has managed to get by, helped by supporting the table from underneath, as it bends slightly even under the weight of a light vice, the noise has been there from day one, not sure exactly where it is coming from but sounds like the bush that the idle wheel is mounted in. Too be honest I was thinking of stripping and renovating it but there is so much play in the quill I doubt it would be worth doing.

      Chesk this out,

      drill 3.jpg

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      Edited By Ian Skeldon 2 on 12/06/2017 16:41:43

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      #302240
      Ian Skeldon 2
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        Ooops I ment 'check'.

        #302271
        Anthony Knights
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          @anthonyknights16741

          cheap bench drill.jpg

          Here's my drill which I've had for 10 years without problems. The screw and locknut outlined in red, adjust the play on the quill. For heavy duty drilling I support the table with a suitable block of wood. For any thing really accurate, I use my small milling machine. So long as one is aware of the shortcomings of any piece of equipment, one can make allowances when using it. Unfortunately I am not rich enough to be able to afford super accurate toolroom machinery.

          #302292
          Mick B1
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            Posted by Anthony Knights on 12/06/2017 18:54:47:

            So long as one is aware of the shortcomings of any piece of equipment, one can make allowances when using it. Unfortunately I am not rich enough to be able to afford super accurate toolroom machinery.

            Exactly. I have a small bench drill that cost me 20 quid or so at a DIY chain. There may be issues with its accuracy or rigidity, but they haven't stopped me making what I wanted, and it's done what I've asked of it – though I might've sometimes had to be more 'reasonable' about that than I'd've wanted.

            What comes out of your shed is 10 or more times more important than what you've got in there, and anyone who thinks different invites trite old sayings about blaming tools.

            #302371
            Ian Skeldon 2
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              @ianskeldon2

              Well as I got it for free and it has done lots of work I can't complain, but I also can't produce anything with accuracy, easily, or quickly.

              I guess that having the mill available has just made drilling so much easier, without doubt, if I didn't have the mill I would still be using 'my old china' for everything and just working around it's limitations, in fact even now if it's just a hole in something and the size of hole aint too big, I use the drill, using a car jack under the table for support also works but it all takes a bit longer. The quill adjustment on mine seems to be best where it is currently set, if I try to adjust any more play out of it it starts to bind and all sorts.

              Who knows, if I get the time I might strip it and renovate with new bearings/bushes.

              #302378
              David Standing 1
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                Posted by Lathejack on 11/06/2017 23:50:40:

                But I do think he has overlooked the drills possible real potential. In some of his photos the drill is sat on the ground close to a door, and appears to be preventing the door from closing fully. So if he had given it some thought, and moved it a little further to the right, I am sure that the drill would be at least good enough to make an excellent door stop.

                Neil could buy it and use it for a boat anchor, for when his Super Adept has a day off devil wink 2.

                #302391
                Ian Skeldon 2
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                  OK I gave in, really surprised on two counts, firstly it all came apart very easily, secondly the bearings are actually very smooth and have lots of life left in them.drill bearing.jpg

                  And the reason there was so much lateral play was because the keyway pin has been machined wrong, the pin is oblong and won't engage inside the keyway, In the photo below you can see what I mean and just make out the whitness marks about 1 inch below, where it was binding in the key way, the pin will now be hand ground or filed and re-fitted.

                  drill key pin.jpg

                  Seems like you have all done me a favour as I wouldn't have bothered had it not been for posts, so thank you.

                  #302396
                  richardandtracy
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                    @richardandtracy

                    Good to see someone has been thoroughly gruntled.

                    Regards,

                    Richard.

                    #302574
                    Jim Nic
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                      @jimnic

                      Today I collected my new pillar drill, the subject of this thread. It turned out not to be as bad as the seller made out (although the vice he included is an abomination and is headed for my scrap bin).

                      After a bit of cleaning adjusting and lubrication it looks better and runs smoothly

                      It is not a precision machine by any means but I bought it to put an engine turned finish on the baseplate of my Popcorn engine and avoid the risk of spraying abrasive muck all over my mill/drill.

                      I need to rework the quill locating pin as Ian Skeldon 2 has shown above and it will then do me nicely.

                      I doubt I will keep it after it has served the purpose for which I bought it so if anyone wants a cheap wood drill, keep an eye on the bay in a week or so for a bargain. wink

                      Jim

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