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  • #290391
    David Watson 3
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      @davidwatson3

      Along with the Mini Lathe I inherited from my late father are some odd lathe parts not related to the Mini Lathe.

      There is a Myford threaded nose cone and a set of collets that mach the nose cone, probly from his ML7. They are MT2 taper. How can I identify wihat collets they are. They look like ER collets but I am not sure what size they are?. The other problem may be that the Mini Lathe headstock is MT3.

      I would like to use collets on the Mini Lathe having seen my Father using collets on his Rivet 608 for his clock making.

      #25155
      David Watson 3
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        @davidwatson3

        What Collets

        #290395
        Phil P
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          @philp

          Do you have a photo of the collets in question to help with identity ?

          Phil

          #290397
          Robbo
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            @robbo

            David

            They sound like Myford collets and with the threaded "nose cone" – called a "nose piece" or collet closer – will only fit Myford machines as the spindle nose thread has to match the Myford thread inside the collet closer.

            Myford collets are 2¼" long and 0.58" dia at the thin end. For ease of reference one is shown here

            myfordcollet (small).jpg

            And the instructions for using them here

            myford collet instructions.jpg

            O f course I may be wrong!   E&O always excepted

            Edited By Robbo on 24/03/2017 21:56:40

            #290402
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133

              David,

              I was thinking along the same lines as Robbo … but there is one important caveat

              Any resemblance to ER Collets is quite superficial: Yes, both have a groove for the closing ring BUT the Myford ones are fixed size, and do not have the range of an ER.

              MichaelG.

              #290424
              David Watson 3
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                @davidwatson3

                Thanks folks. The photos from Robo prove my thoughts that they are Myford only collets. I think starting again with ER 32 and a collet holder for the Mini Lathe is my best choice. My next thoiught being do I go for metric or imperial?.

                I was offered an ML10 recently and if it wasnt thirty plus years old and a lot of money I would have found a use for the collets. Sadly my father gave his ML7 away when I was stationed abroad later followed by his Rivet 608 to be replaced by the mini lathe. Sad times but I am getting some use out of the mini lathe.

                #290427
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  David,

                  I have sent you a message

                  MichaelG.

                  #290429
                  Robbo
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                    @robbo

                    David,

                    The good news is that genuine Myford collets command a premium price on ebay and elsewhere, so you can get some money back to pay for your ER collets.

                    These days, unless you have a stock of Imperial cutters, I would go for Metric. My own ER collets are metric, while my old Clarkson and Myford ones are Imperial (as befits an old fogey).

                    Edited By Robbo on 25/03/2017 09:00:29

                    #290440
                    Brian Oldford
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                      @brianoldford70365

                      Whatever range of collets you have (imperial in 1/32"s or metric in millimeters) you should be able to grip anything within the range of the collet set you have.

                      #290472
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133
                        Posted by Brian Oldford on 25/03/2017 09:56:04:

                        Whatever range of collets you have (imperial in 1/32"s or metric in millimeters) you should be able to grip anything within the range of the collet set you have.

                        .

                        Brian,

                        If you are referring to the Myford collets, then i beg to differ.

                        … each collet is designed for a specific size +/- a few thou' at most.

                        ER collets however, are, of course, 'extended range'.

                        MichaelG.

                        #290512
                        Thor 🇳🇴
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                          @thor

                          Hi David,

                          I think getting an ER 32collet system is a good idea. You ask: "My next thoiught being do I go for metric or imperial?." That depends on the shank diameter of the end mills (or work) you use. I have mostly metric collets with a couple of imperial ones – 1/8" and 1/4" because I occasionally use 1/16" slot drills which have a 1/4" shank.

                          Thor

                          #290641
                          Brian Oldford
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                            @brianoldford70365
                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 25/03/2017 12:26:02:

                            Posted by Brian Oldford on 25/03/2017 09:56:04:

                            Whatever range of collets you have (imperial in 1/32"s or metric in millimeters) you should be able to grip anything within the range of the collet set you have.

                            .

                            Brian,

                            If you are referring to the Myford collets, then i beg to differ.

                            … each collet is designed for a specific size +/- a few thou' at most.

                            ER collets however, are, of course, 'extended range'.

                            MichaelG.

                            You are, of course, quite correct. I failed to mention I was, in fact, referring to the sets of collets I have which are of the ER11 and ER25 series. My apologies for the ambiguity.

                            #290680
                            Michael Gilligan
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                              @michaelgilligan61133

                              Thanks for clarifying that, Brian yes

                              MichaelG.

                              #290683
                              Phil P
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                                @philp
                                Posted by David Watson 3 on 25/03/2017 08:37:20:

                                Thanks folks. The photos from Robo prove my thoughts that they are Myford only collets. I think starting again with ER 32 and a collet holder for the Mini Lathe is my best choice. My next thoiught being do I go for metric or imperial?.

                                I was offered an ML10 recently and if it wasnt thirty plus years old and a lot of money I would have found a use for the collets. Sadly my father gave his ML7 away when I was stationed abroad later followed by his Rivet 608 to be replaced by the mini lathe. Sad times but I am getting some use out of the mini lathe.

                                David

                                If you should be thinking of parting with your Myford collets, I am looking for 3/64", 13/64", 27/64 & 31/64" sizes.

                                These are not very common sizes, but if you do have any spare I would appreciate a message.

                                Thanks

                                Phil

                                #290687
                                Jon Gibbs
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                                  @jongibbs59756

                                  I have a full set of metric ER32 collets for workholding but then a second smaller select mix of metric and imperial collets for end-mills since I have both metric and imperial.

                                  I opted for 16mm, 1/2", 12mm, 10mm and 1/4" as the cheapest combination. It's fairly obvious but with this set none of the collets needs to be closed more than 0.5mm (10mm -> 3/8" worst case) to cover almost all of my end-mills.

                                  HTH

                                  Jon

                                  #290819
                                  peter blair
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                                    @peterblair72074

                                    I don't mean to steal this thread but wonder if anyone can identify these collets I picked up for $5.00?

                                    Hard to see in the photo but they are threaded on the outside of the end and do not have an internal thread.

                                    img_3910.jpg

                                    #290820
                                    Michael Gilligan
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                                      @michaelgilligan61133

                                      Peter,

                                      Your slightly fuzzy photo appears to show them marked CD13

                                      … So try here: **LINK**

                                      http://www.miyakawa.com/en/products_e/multiple_head/collet_drill.htm

                                      Nice find at that price !!

                                      MichaelG.

                                      #290839
                                      peter blair
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                                        @peterblair72074

                                        Thanks Michael. I'm sure that's what they are. Now I don't know if I should buy the rest so I can use them or try to make a few $$$ by selling them. Once again, love this site!

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