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[alan smith 6Participant @alansmith6]

Posted by A Smith on 16/12/2012 09:26:50:

Reading this post, there seems to have been some misrepresentation of the OP issue. He bought some spare parts, they did not fit. The resolution was unsatisfactory. Some of the usual suspects seized on this to practise their baiting skills, which in one instance clearly matches his engineering ability.

It seems that my namesake has put his finger on the pulse of what is happening on this thread.

The culprits are clearly the seasoned posters that have a score of plus 1000 posts. with the exception of Ian SC who is a good guy with over 2000 posts. Now they have turned their attention to Ketan with their bullying tactics with racial discrimination thrown in as well!

DavidC has turned a blind eye on these pests who contaminate the threads with their nonsense.

Jason Udall, you remember my tussle with a 1000+ poster on another thread, don`t become one of them.

Alan Smith6

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by NJH on 16/12/2012 13:15:52:

Now I see we are diverting into misletoe and virgins – for goodness sake guys get out to your sheds, find a big lump of metal and a coarse file, and make a heap of filings. It will take your mind off things.

N

 

Norman,

This raises a very, very important question though.

 

Is it technically possible to have a 24 thou undersize virgin ?

 

John S, from inside the workshop with two machines running on auto feed and two CNC's running making parts.

 

Edited By John Stevenson on 16/12/2012 14:32:46

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi John

Interesting question.

You would have to use a plug gauge I think.

Although, then, after testing, it would not be fit for purpose.

regards David

Edited By David Clark 1 on 16/12/2012 14:42:07

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

If this whole thread was just a shaggy dog story leading up to that punch line it was worth it.

Thanks.

Rod

[NJHParticipant @njh]

John and David

I nearly exploded! Here I am sitting on the sofa after lunch using the wife's iPad ( well technically OUR iPad – but I don't want a fight) and you guys post something like that. I laughed and laughed – even the dog looked surprised.You've made my weekend!

Thanks

Norman

[SiddleyParticipant @siddley]

I thought that all virgins had to be metric nowadays to conform with EU directives ?

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

H There

I don't beleive that came into force until 1971 so technically only the ones born during or after are classified as Metric.

regard David

[KWILParticipant @kwil]

There appear to be so many useless EU Directives to trawl through, I had not noticed that one. Perhaps we were not expected to notice it either?

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

41 year old imperial NOS is going to be tricky to source. You might have to make do with a refurbished one.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by alan smith 6 on 16/12/2012 14:31:24:

Posted by A Smith on 16/12/2012 09:26:50:

Now they have turned their attention to Ketan with their bullying tactics with racial discrimination thrown in as well!

Alan Smith6

Hi Alan Smith6,

I personally do not feel that there was any bullying tactic with racial discrimination at all. There was stereo typical content which was very understandable, and most of us, including me are guilty of this, if guilty is the correct word.

For me, your post has been a very interesting and enjoyable thread.

Ketan at ARC.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Agreed Ketan.

Never laughed as much since the Mother in Law got chucked out of the SS for cruelty.

[HomeUseParticipant @homeuse]

Wow – this is forming into a good thread.

I have just read through all the postings and have, "come to a sort of a conclusion".

We are "engineers" looking for perfection in the products we have and use.

The first requirement seems to be "a virgin that is fit for purpose" ( They could be Asian, Italian, German or any from any other country)

The second requitement is " the virgin must be able to perform the action that you require it to do"

The third requirement would be "the virgin should be accurate in all movements wheather back or forward. side to side and up and down,

The fourth is " the virgin should perform at the speed that is applicable to the task being performed"

Fifth " there should not be any drop off in speed or power when the working gets harder"

Sixth – You fill it in – I am going out in the workshop (Shed) to make some pure British SWARF and then have a good rub down with mistletoe before I paint the berry juce on

[Grizzly bearParticipant @grizzlybear]

I could murder a witches tit!

Regards, Bear..

[SiddleyParticipant @siddley]

Posted by Ketan Swali on 16/12/2012 16:43:28:

I personally do not feel that there was any bullying tactic with racial discrimination at all. There was stereo typical content which was very understandable, and most of us, including me are guilty of this, if guilty is the correct word.

I have to say that the only reason I didn't spit my dentures into my cup of tea when I read the 'Indians should stick to making curry' comment was that I haven't got dentures and I don't drink tea

[alan smith 6Participant @alansmith6]

Unfortunately I don`t share this type of juvenile humour so haven`t got a laugh out of it so far. John, you aren`t a good advertisement for that engineering empire that you are supposed to have and I believe that you have "lost face" with your silly outbursts.

You seem to have a lot of energy so why not channel this energy into something you are good at, like filing lumps of cast iron. As for your aspirations as a comedian on this thread, as they say "don`t give up the day job"

The plastic pig was a true classic and will go down in the hallowed annals of the model engineer together with such names as Martin Cleeve for posterity.

As for your kind offer of not doing work for me, I already have a trusted team that do my work. Real craftsmen with good British machines and they don`t have a problem with discussing tolerances. In fact they work to them unlike you that can`t even give the tolerances that you are working to for the bore diameter in those Myford gears.

Alan

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

Posted by HomeUse on 16/12/2012 19:59:02:

Wow – this is forming into a good thread.

I have just read through all the postings and have, "come to a sort of a conclusion".

We are "engineers" looking for perfection in the products we have and use.

The first requirement seems to be "a virgin that is fit for purpose" ( They could be Asian, Italian, German or any from any other country)

The second requitement is " the virgin must be able to perform the action that you require it to do"

The third requirement would be "the virgin should be accurate in all movements wheather back or forward. side to side and up and down,

The fourth is " the virgin should perform at the speed that is applicable to the task being performed"

Fifth " there should not be any drop off in speed or power when the working gets harder"

Sixth – You fill it in – I am going out in the workshop (Shed) to make some pure British SWARF and then have a good rub down with mistletoe before I paint the berry juce on

And what gender would that be sir? Or does it matter?

Edited By Terryd on 16/12/2012 22:13:28

[SiddleyParticipant @siddley]

A mate of mine once cut the roof off a plastic pig and installed a 1600 X-Flow engine in it. Then we spray painted the thing in various psychedelic colours to humiliate it further. Awesome vehicle – it would actually wheelie.

There used to be a bloke knocking around my local area who had a pig painted in NATO green and black cammo. What a hero

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by alan smith 6 on 16/12/2012 21:56:02:

Unfortunately I don`t share this type of juvenile humour so haven`t got a laugh out of it so far. John, you aren`t a good advertisement for that engineering empire that you are supposed to have and I believe that you have "lost face" with your silly outbursts.

What advertisment ? I don't advertise, in fact like all the best whores I'm not even in the phone book.

All my work comes via recomend and it isn't an empire, in fact it's a converted stable block, didn't do Jesus any harm did it ?

As regards loosing face, you have your followers, I seem to have mine as this thread has shown.

You seem to have a lot of energy so why not channel this energy into something you are good at, like filing lumps of cast iron. As for your aspirations as a comedian on this thread, as they say "don`t give up the day job"

The plastic pig was a true classic and will go down in the hallowed annals of the model engineer together with such names as Martin Cleeve for posterity.

I agree with you, the plastic pig post was a classic but I'm not giving my day job up, don't worry.

As for your kind offer of not doing work for me, I already have a trusted team that do my work. Real craftsmen with good British machines and they don`t have a problem with discussing tolerances. In fact they work to them unlike you that can`t even give the tolerances that you are working to for the bore diameter in those Myford gears.

Alan

You seem to have a knack for either misreading or ignoring posts. I made an off of NOT doing work for you. However I do accept that you are not skilled enough that you need to have a trusted team to do your work for you.

As regards the tolerances on the gears, they are not your gears, you are not my customer so why do you think you have the audacity to DEMAND I tell you the tolerances ?

If you are that concerned then please ask Myfords what the tolerances are. That's the original Nottingham Myfords by the way. The reason I tell you to do this is that I went into Myfords before the sale was made public and bought shed loads of tooling which covered all the gear cutting tooling, all the taps for the leadscrew nuts plus a lot of other pieces, including the reamers for the gear blanks.

After reading a post on page 3 from Nigel Barraclough about how the gear spindles were made it prompted me to go and have a look thru the pile of gear shaper cutters and lo and behold two cutters from Tay Tools to do this external keyway.

Would you like to buy one so your team of skilled workers with their British machines could make some up to your tolerances and corner the market. You only need a Drummond gear shaper, a Fellows is no good, it;s not British.

[alan smith 6Participant @alansmith6]

John,

As a machinist I thought that you would be proud to demonstrate your skills and knowlege and just let us know what tolerances you are working to if any. Why are you so evasive, was all that BS about going to Myford to get the tolerances necessary? Just give us a straight answer.

When I did my apprenticeship although I enjoyed the shop floor I could see that it is basically a dead end job especially now with those machining centres. Do you do your own programming?

I went into design engineering as I`m well qualified, made some money, enjoyed the challenge and thrived on it.

I freely admit that I`m a hopeless machinist but enjoy working machines and creating things, In fact I have three workshps, one in the UK one at my French ruin and another here in Norway, as I travel between the three during the year.

I have specialised in manufacturing spares for high end Vintage cars and quickly found that I was not up speed on the machining. For the last fifteen years I have used A precision engineering co. in Coventry to machine the parts with complete satisfaction. I would never dream of going to a juvenile such as you for this work.

It`s laughable, you say that I don`t read your posts ( that`s understandable when you push out so much drivel, you and your +1000 cronies ). Just re- read my post, you`ll see that I did say "that you had not offered to work for me".

Thats all for now,

Alan

Edited By alan smith 6 on 16/12/2012 23:26:17

[dcostaParticipant @dcosta]

Hello David Clark

Maybe it's because of my poor command of the English language but it seems to me I have recognized words I was taught to recognize as inappropriate language in one of the previous posts.
If I understood the words well, this type of uncivilized language makes me feel uncomfortable to participate and much worse if I, for whatever reason, have to disagree with John Stevenson.
If my understanding of English made me a prank, please Mr. Stevenson accept my apologies.

Maybe it's time for the moderator to intervene and at least remove the word to which I refer…
I remember that not long ago, in a similar situation, the moderator took some action…

Best regards
Dias Costa

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Whatever.

If you are such a good design engineer you will be alble to give tolerances without having to stop to asking a juvenile.

Last time, I'm not telling you. Thank you for telling us what you do. I don't feel I need to tell anyone what I do, the people who matter, know.

[SiddleyParticipant @siddley]

Posted by alan smith 6 on 16/12/2012 23:11:58:

although I enjoyed the shop floor I could see that it is basically a dead end job especially now with those machining centres.

As someone who has spent 90% of his working life either spannering, machining or bashing metal about in one form or another I find that comment a little bit insulting. I bet you were a bag of laughs on the 'shop floor'

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Early in my career.(computer systems design) I was told (and have good reason to believe )

"Show respect to the production staff..they are the ones that make us look good."

—these are an engineers last line of defence (along with the DO)…treat them badly and your scr*w ups get made into posters..threat them right and its" Err Didn't you mean….?".

Besides curtsey costs little or nothing.

BTW
"Jason Udall, you remember my tussle with a 1000+ poster on another thread, don`t become one of them."         ???

Alan just what was I at risk of doing?  ( asside from grammer or spelling )

 

But then I never was a particully social animal prefering Engineering.

Edited By jason udall on 17/12/2012 01:14:59

[_Paul_Participant @_paul_]

Mr Smith wasn't he the nasty fellow in the Matrix films?

[jason udallParticipant @jasonudall57142]

Posted by _Paul_ on 17/12/2012 01:11:00:

Mr Smith wasn't he the nasty fellow in the Matrix films?

The matrix (churchil)?

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