Auto welding face shields

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Anyone know of a lower price one that has a decent size of head band ?

LOL I think I have an XXL head size as hats generally wont fit. XL may

The one I have just sits on top of head and the strap that should be across the top may as well not be there. I suspect this is an extreme example. It might fit my wife.

I've noticed the SIP ones. Right sort of price and a reasonable viewing window size. I have no idea of what size head bands they have. If I had bought one of these locally however I could have taken it back.

Then there is 3M – way way too expensive. Some other makes too.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 21/12/2016 20:17:54

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

With a decent head band size

[HacksawParticipant @hacksaw]

Toolstation for SIP Meteor BIG window – £35 ish . Well pleased with mine .Go in and try one on? Buy lens protectors for it too while you're there .

 

Meteor 2300 is the plain one , if you get the one with flame stickers on,  its 60 quid !!!  

Edited By Hacksaw on 21/12/2016 20:38:24

[richardandtracyParticipant @richardandtracy]

Check up EBay. At this price you could modify it (under £16)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172183863175

Regards

Richard

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Why bother asking ??

You will make your own mind up and ignore any advise given.

You only have to read the 3 in 1 thread to see.

[Carl Wilson 4Participant @carlwilson4]

And if everyone takes that advice there will be no forum and you’ll have talked your way out of a job.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by Carl Wilson 4 on 21/12/2016 22:16:59:
And if everyone takes that advice there will be no forum and you'll have talked your way out of a job.

Carl, Not quite, most on here ask a question as they want help, some however ask and just ignore so you can't help.

As regards talking myself out of a job, if you want it then just email Neil.

[Nick HulmeParticipant @nickhulme30114]

I bought an ESAB which fits my head (I usually have to wear the box when I buy a hat) and the price was very reasonable,

– Nick

[Carl Wilson 4Participant @carlwilson4]

John,

Great riposte, I like it! As for doing your job, I couldn’t. Not just because I haven’t the time. I lack the knowledge.

[Carl Wilson 4Participant @carlwilson4]

John,

Great riposte, I like it! As for doing your job, I couldn’t. Not just because I haven’t the time. I lack the knowledge.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Sort of thing I expect from JS. Stolen from some one else who's advice I did take actually. The bottle adapter arrived today. I may need the right angle outlet. The 3 in 1 thread is well read and to be honest I wouldn't expect anyone to understand my gas needs or appreciate my attitude to BOC, I've had contact with them before through work. If BOC looks to suite it may well be from them. I fail to understand people who can't accept that I will phone them.

Anyway enough of that.

I suspect the helmet size problem is the way they are adjusted. Not much scope in the space available. One way too expensive make offers a sort of elasticated band add on to get round the problem. Seems to be USA only anyway.

One way might be to get one from amazon. By the time I have sent a dozen back they might get some larger ones in. I can go and try the SIP one on especially if the nice lady is on the counter. We have a bit of a laugh. If it's some one else I may have to take it back if it doesn't fit. Taking a measurement I need one that will reach something like a 27" 69cm circumference. Smaller might not work out. Not that unusual a size actually. I had no problem at all finding motor cycle helmet. Hats for walking when it's raining are much harder to find.

John

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[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Ajohnw on 21/12/2016 23:53:08:

… Taking a measurement I need one that will reach something like a 27" 69cm circumference. Smaller might not work out. Not that unusual a size actually.

**LINK**

http://www.hatsandcaps.co.uk/hat-size-chart-asize_chart/

MichaelG.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 22/12/2016 00:03:26:

Posted by Ajohnw on 21/12/2016 23:53:08:

… Taking a measurement I need one that will reach something like a 27" 69cm circumference. Smaller might not work out. Not that unusual a size actually.

**LINK**

http://www.hatsandcaps.co.uk/hat-size-chart-asize_chart/

MichaelG.

LOL I have an XL that fits pretty well.Pulled down too far an I'd probably get a headache. They vary according to make. Any time I go near one that might fit I try it on. If the shop I had the xl from had an xxl it might have been too big. XL, XXL and XXXL tea shirts are much the same. Some fit well and I can't breath in some others. Mind you I haven't ever found an XXXL that wasn't too big. Staiting 44" chest doesn't always work out either.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 22/12/2016 00:15:18

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

Posted by Ajohnw on 21/12/2016 23:53:08:

The bottle adapter arrived today. I may need the right angle outlet. The 3 in 1 thread is well read.

John

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Not sure I understand the right angle outlet ?

I have two oxy/ acetylene bottles from BOC with the vertical fitting and the MiG gas and Argon are from Gas Direct and like Air Products have the side fitting.

All have the same type two stage regulator and they fit both bottles without an adapter ??

For maximum efficiency and economy you need a double stage regulator or you will be wasting gas.

Perhaps I'm not understanding the problem if there is one ?

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

From the other post it looks like John W ordered a single stage one. Strange as he said he did not want to start using gas until he had a regulator to save wasting gas yet has bought a less economical one But he knows best.

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

If worst comes to worst, can you not cut the head band, insert ia piece, and rejoin. I know it feels better to be able to walk in to the shop, and come out with something that fits.

Ian S C

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

There will be a flow gauge used with it. That's what the regulator I have bought is intended for. Preset for agron and it's matching flow regulator 0 – 14 l/pm. If that doesn't work oh well have to get another. I'd expect to have to tweak the flow regulator now and again but not often enough to be a problem. Depends how good the regulator is. That does vary. I wont go into how I know that.

The reason for the adapter is explained in the 3in1 post. As the person who suggested it mentions it allows both styles of bottle to be used. The flow regulator needs to be vertical.

Anyway I usually ignore trolls. In fact on some forums a moderator kicks them off completely.

Thanks for the 2 useful replies. ESAB isn't out of the question price wise and looks to have an additional adjustment which is likely to be useful. I'll see how I get on with the SIP too. I did use a lift up mask for a while years ago and that wasn't a problem. The first one I bought fitted. I preferred a hand held mask for stick though.

Whoops yes I may finish up modifying one.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 22/12/2016 09:45:31

[bodgeParticipant @bodge]

Posted by JasonB on 22/12/2016 07:29:42:

From the other post it looks like John W ordered a single stage one. Strange as he said he did not want to start using gas until he had a regulator to save wasting gas yet has bought a less economical one But he knows best.

I think it will work cost effective for him cos i dont think it will get a lot use, it will interfere too much with his key board time typing in to forum

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

Just checked my helmets out of interest- all have plenty of adjustment yet and not beyond the wit of man to fit an extension piece if needed. The auto shield is a Sealey and has 3" to go on circumference. First time I ever saw an auto helmet was about 30 yrs. ago, I was quite amazed by it. The price was about £350 trade. PS just measured my head for the first time ever- 24" round. Don't wear hats so no experience.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Thanks. It's nice to see another useful reply. Others may have the same problem. There isn't much on the forum on tig really that's why I posted rather than just getting on with it.

There is another thread on the 312 3in1. It seemed to work ok then too.

John

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[DDTParticipant @ddt]

Hi John, regarding your fixed regulator and flow gauge, I've used this type for long time and yes they do work as for adjusting the flow control the only time is when their is breeze in the workshop trying to blow the shield gas away of the weld or you've been a tad lazy in keeping the nozzle clean. The thing about fixed regulators is that stops the experts turning up the pressure up to 'make a better weld' and wasting gas……DDT

Edited By DDT on 22/12/2016 12:48:04

[peak4Participant @peak4]

Recently bought a Bergen one at a steam rally for a bit less than £30 Quite please with it for MIG, but I've never tried TIGging as I haven't got the kit (yet)

XXL motorbike hat, xl/xxl Barmah, & 7 5/8" tilley, and there's plenty of room left on the adjustment, unless of course I try and use it with one of the aforementioned items

Bill

Edited By peak4 on 22/12/2016 13:49:27

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

I know one thing for sure – I should have bought one when I bought a mig welder 'cause I wouldn't have waisted so much gas by guessing.

John

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[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

The sip 2300 from toolstation is fine. It will go right down onto my ears – there is an adjustment to stop that too. Nice big window and 4 sensors. No external adjustment on that model. There is a 3 position switch inside instead to select the shade range. Weld, cut or grind.

Their chipping hammer looks pretty decent too. My old one is in a right state and was a bit light.

John

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