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    Brian Wood
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      Amusement for the grey matter

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      #389453
      Brian Wood
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        I found this in an old book of collected Mathematical puzzles selected from Scientific American magazine. It is the leader in my album pictures, I'm not sure how to include it in the text here

        The logic appears to be impeccable and it will work if 'c' is assigned the value of zero, but the general expression is compelling. I can imagine it it will appeal to Michael G especially

        Enjoy

        Brian

        Edited By Brian Wood on 05/01/2019 10:05:41

        Edited By Brian Wood on 05/01/2019 10:06:31

        #389454
        John Hinkley
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          Very puzzling! What exactly is the puzzle? Or is that what we're should be trying to figure out? Should even be a challenge for Michael G.

          John

          #389456
          Michael Gilligan
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            #389458
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              Easy enough to work out what the puzzel is even without Michaels helpwink 2

              Edit, beat me to it.

              Edited By JasonB on 05/01/2019 10:11:20

              #389460
              Anonymous

                If c is zero then a-b is also zero so in the first step you multiply both sides by zero – to get 0=0. Just goes to show Kurt Godel was right.

                Andrew

                #389461
                John Hinkley
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                  @johnhinkley26699

                  Didn't think to look there!

                  John

                  #389473
                  Gary Wooding
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                    @garywooding25363

                    The real answer is that if A=B+C then A-B-C=0, so,

                    after factorisation you have Ax0 = Bx0, which is clearly correct for all values of A and B

                    #389479
                    John Haine
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                      @johnhaine32865

                      And it isn't a paradox.

                      #389483
                      Andrew Tinsley
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                        The real snag is that you divide both sides by a-b-c which is equal to zero. Dividing by zero is a no, no as the result can have any value.

                        Andrew.

                        #389490
                        pgk pgk
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                          @pgkpgk17461

                          As is pointed out a-b-c=0 so as soon as you move ac to the left side of the equation you have 0=0

                          #389532
                          Georgineer
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                            @georgineer

                            In my school days we had a proof that any number was greater than any number greater than itself, also achieved by the same trick of a hidden division by zero. There was also a geometrical proof that all right angles are obtuse. Regrettably, the details have evaporated in the ensuing half-century.

                            George

                            #389545
                            not done it yet
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                              @notdoneityet
                              Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 05/01/2019 11:05:41:

                              The real snag is that you divide both sides by a-b-c which is equal to zero. Dividing by zero is a no, no as the result can have any value.

                              Andrew.

                              Only zero divided by zero is indeterminate. Zero divided into anything else is actually infinity. The indeterminacy arises because the answer of any number divided by itself is one.

                              #389579
                              Tim Stevens
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                                And as every schoolboy knows, (to end with a political message) there is nothing more indeterminate than unity.

                                Cheers, Tim

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