Aircraft General Discussion

[davebParticipant @daveb17630]

Saw a Catalina overhead at Romford today, heading south. Love the sound of those big radials.

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

A couple of days late, on the 16/9/16 (100 yrs after the Kiwis arrived on the Somme) a Bristol Scout (built in NZ by The Vintage Aviator Ltd., TVAL), flew over the Caterpillar Valley Cemetary, Longueval, France and dropped Poppy petals over the fields where 2000 NZ soldiers died 100 yrs ago.

There was supposed to be a TVAL Albertross, but it had a bit of a whoopsie landing a few days ago.

Have a look at the TVAL  Facebook site, and their web site, you might be there for an hour or so.

Ian S C

Edited By Ian S C on 20/09/2016 15:57:33

[Another JohnSParticipant @anotherjohns]

Saw the Canadian Lancaster flying around yesterday when visiting the Southern Ontario Model Engineers meet at the Pumphouse Museum in Hamilton, ON, Canada.

Also, a Tiger Moth, but the Lancaster always takes the cake!

(yes, I do have a photo of it, but not really that great a photo…)

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Doesn't get much simpler than this. And you can even make your own engines:

[NimbleParticipant @nimble]

Not your normal aircraft sound! Three Merlins. The Latest Mosquito rebuild has just flown overhead accompanied by a Spitfire. Unfortunately I was in my workshop and my camera was inside.Better luck the next time, as the glide path to Ardmore aerodrome is overhead.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Please no more Edith Piaf

I'd rather listen to Boyzone.

N.

[richardandtracyParticipant @richardandtracy]

Boyzone?!? You must really hate Piaf…

Richard

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

I enjoyed seeing the wee aircraft, but vintage Piaff was just wonderful! Good job we all have different musical tastes! I was so moved that I got straight on to Amazon and ordered a Piaff DVD.

Edited By Mike on 26/09/2016 11:33:54

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by richardandtracy on 26/09/2016 10:38:26:

Boyzone?!? You must really hate Piaf…

Richard

I think Francoise Hollande should make an apology…

There i svery little music I find truly 'orrible, typically those artists whose songs are characterised by over-processed vocals. But I find mournful, over-wrought French songs a painful experience. My daughter keeps playing the original of Seasons in the Sun at me

Vive la difference!

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 26/09/2016 11:40:25

[Cornish JackParticipant @cornishjack]

"Oh the Anson – a truly beautiful old bird."

Umm … sort of! Did my first flying hour in the old girl – Swanton Morley on a Spring evening tour of E Anglia.

6000 hours later, the all pervading smell of Avgas, old leather, dope, Elsan fluid and … vomit!!remains in memory. Rumble, rumble of a pair of Cheetahs and 156 (?) turns of the gear retract handle. Hey Ho!

Different times for sure.

rgds

Bill

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

Good news, the latest Mosquito is doing test fights, it has tempory markings as NZ2337, a Mossie of the post war RNZAF 75 Squadron, painted in silver dope, with the 75 Sq black spinners. YCF looks great, they have been using a two seat Spitfire as a chase plane, and I think its been having trouble keeping up.

Ian S C

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

That's wonderful, Ian

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In other News: Having worked on a few occasions with 'Martin Baker' … I find this surprising, and [personally] would expect the prosecution to fail. … What do others think ?

http://press.hse.gov.uk/2016/hse-to-prosecute-manufacturing-company-following-red-arrow-pilot-death/

MichaelG.

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P.S. … If Moderators consider this inappropriate, I am happy for it to be removed.

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 27/09/2016 12:21:52:

In other News: Having worked on a few occasions with 'Martin Baker' … I find this surprising, and [personally] would expect the prosecution to fail. … What do others think ?

A sad incident. In these days of entangled outsourcing (largely, in my experience, to shuffle off responsibility) my guess is that the case will come down to who was holding the maintenance parcel when the music stopped.

Rod

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

A good interpretation of the problem Rod.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I haven't had chance to look for the actual Coroner's report, but here is the newspaper summary: **LINK**

Inquest into Red Arrows pilot’s death concluded

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Coroner's report to Martin Baker, for info.

**LINK**

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Cunningham-2014-0087.pdf

MichaelG.

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The Mk.10 seat: http://www.martin-baker.com/_pdfs/mk10.pdf

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/09/2016 17:46:26

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

There are few photos of the latest Mossie, its new owner Paul Allen, of the Flying Heritage Collection wants it all kept secret, but I got this on it's return from the first flight. You will see that as it's a T Mk III dual control trainer, it has no guns, there is the hole in the nose for the gun camera. Ian S C

Ian S C

[Anonymous]

Just had a Tornado fly over the bungalow, pretty noisy although he was at about 1000ft. Heading south and flying fairly slowly – lost maybe? I hope he sorts it out, or he'll be in controlled airspace in no time.

Andrew

PS: Hint to pilot – Marham is north from here.

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

I live only a few miles from RAF Lossiemouth, so can contrast the noise made by Tornados and Eurofighter Typhoons. It's widely believed in our village that one Tornado is as noisy as a squadron of Typhoons. A bit of an exaggeration, I'm sure, but the Typhoon is definitely the very much quieter aircraft of the pair. The noisiest aircraft we've had over the village in recent weeks was a Chinook helicopter. I'm deaf, and it even sent me running outside to see what it was.

[JAParticipant @ja]

Mike – Both the Tornado and Typhoon engines have reheat. Without reheat on you get a lot of noise. With reheat you get even more. I sure I did not have to tell you that. I agree with you about the Chinook.

I have spent quite a few "happy" hours at Marham but I did prefer the pubs in Kings Lynn.

JA

[MikeParticipant @mike89748]

Thanks JA. Both aircraft use reheat for take-off, I believe, but by the time they get within hearing range of my house it will be switched off, I assume.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

It's surprising how loud a C130 Hercules is when it goes over at treetop height

I never heard anything louder than a Phantom on reheat though.

Neil

[Gordon TarlingParticipant @gordontarling37126]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/10/2016 18:46:41:

I never heard anything louder than a Phantom on reheat though.

Neil

You've obviously never stood near a Concorde at the start of a takeoff run, then! Pardon?

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Neil,

Regardless of flying speed the C130's Alison turbo prop engines run at a constant speed and the propellers do all the work hence a lot of noise at all speeds, having stood next to a runway at Heathrow to watch Concord take off it beats Phantoms any day and I would put the SR71 Blackbird a close second.

Martin P

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Gordon Tarling 1 on 07/10/2016 10:42:55:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/10/2016 18:46:41:

I never heard anything louder than a Phantom on reheat though.

Neil

You've obviously never stood near a Concorde at the start of a takeoff run, then! Pardon?

No I haven't

I have seen a Vulcan pull a near vert though, but the Phantom was pretty much overhead.

Neil

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