<p style=”text-align: left;”>Heh! Yeah, I’d say so!</p>
If I hadn’t stretched my budget on tooling over the last year or so, I’d have contacted you the moment you put this thread up and taken advantage of your missing knowledge about this topic and bought it off you for as little as I could get away with, and then gone on to eBay to look for a 1ES! 😲😆
You can pick up a horizontal 1ES for £500 on eBay these days.
The 1ES, when limited to horizontal milling, is a very capable, rigid, but relatively compact (relative to its rigidity and capability) machine, with a very respectable work envelope, but it is also awkward to use when performing the kinds of operations we tend to want to do, which suit a vertical milling much more; not impossible obviously, one can put a collet in the horizontal spindle nose, use angle plates, and accept that visibility of the operation whilst it’s being performed will be limited.
However, stick a vertical head on the 1ES and one would have a machine most hobbyists would be envious of.
Obviously the little stub vertical heads (which whilst rare, are the least uncommon), don’t have a quill and thus no down feed; one is stuck with just the knee travel, but a DRO can provide reasonably attainable accuracy on the Z axis.
Given a tight budget and the information you now have from this thread, I can’t ‘steal a deal’, so to speak, so my advice is to squeeze any potential buyer until the pips squeak! 😄