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    Michael Gilligan
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      #145717
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        101 things to do with an Adept Lathe

         
        A thread recently started by Steven Greenhough has prompted some debate about the usefulness, or otherwise, of his Super Adept lathe.
         
        I don't want to take Steve's thread off-topic, so: At some risk of offending Mr Stevenson, this is an exercise in "Blue-sky thinking" and I invite your contributions.
         
        This definition, from a BBC page, seems reasonable:

        Blue-sky thinking involves a group of people looking at an opportunity with fresh eyes. As many ideas as possible are generated in an ideas generation session where no ideas are rejected as silly.

         
        So, here are three ideas to get things rolling:
         
        1. Ignore the fact that his was intended as a driven lathe … Lock the headstock spindle, fit a Tee Rest, and use it like Watchmaker's Turns; work between centres, driven by a Bow.
         
        2. Replace or modify the headstock spindle to provide a suitable anvil; then fit a micrometer head to the tailstock, and use the thing as a Bench Micrometer.
         
        3. Fit a vee-grooved pad to the headstock spindle, and a high-speed drilling spindle into the tailstock body. Cross-drill your small shafts with ease!
         
        … Can we find 98 more ?

        Edited By Michael Gilligan on 02/03/2014 14:45:44

        #145722
        John Stevenson 1
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          @johnstevenson1

          Scrap it and buy something decent so any learning curve is not an exercise in futility ?

          Does that count as blue sky thinking ?

          #145723
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133

            Given that it's the only response that I've had

            (a) "Yes"

            (b) as a Moderator, please feel free to delete this thread.

            MichaelG.

            #145724
            The Merry Miller
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              @themerrymiller

              You seem to be quite Adept at blue sky thinking John.

              Len.

              #145726
              MICHAEL WILLIAMS
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                @michaelwilliams41215

                Hi Michael G ,

                Slight change of parameters needed for real blue sky thinking .

                Tha Adept as such is dead in the water – after a little discussion a blue sky group would conclude that there was no worthwhile development path fot the Adept and end the session .

                For real blue sky thinking you need seeds – these are primal thoughts either put in as a reason for the session or chosen randomly using a special game or just by reading the news paper (ie).

                Theoretically you need at least three primal seeds but in real session anything goes and the more the better .

                So primal thoughtS :

                (1) Adept lathe CONCEPT – not the actual lathe as is .

                (2) Computer games .

                (3) B&Q

                (4)—– (oo) ????

                Regards ,

                Michael Williams .

                #145729
                John Stevenson 1
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                  @johnstevenson1

                  Are you pissed ?

                  #145730
                  Robert Dodds
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                    @robertdodds43397

                    Hi
                    Although I was aware of the Adept previously I was sufficiently inspired by this thread to look at Lathes.co.uk entry for the Adept which leads me to say don't scrap it as John S suggests.
                    The old adage "The sum of the parts is greater than the whole must surely apply" as I gladly parted with a fair sum of money to acquire a small X-Y table courtesy of H.Wshop that I now recognise as being the saddle and cross-slide from an Adept.
                    I'm looking to use it to provide the traverse movement in my quest to make a 4 facet point grinder for mini drills. The dilemma is "Do I now search for the remainder of an Adept or stick with my Proxxon?"

                    Bob D

                    #145736
                    julian atkins
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                      @julianatkins58923

                      i would agree with John Stevenson, except perhaps use it as a grinder. i dont know anyone who has built anything successfully on an adept lathe.

                      cheers,

                      julian

                      #145737
                      NJH
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                        @njh

                        Hmm Bob

                        | "The old adage "The sum of the parts is greater than the whole must surely apply" "

                        I always thought it was " The whole is greater than the sum of the parts" – and, using MichaelG's searching investigative techniques, it does seems that this quote was originally made by Aristotle and is the correct one. However that is of little consequence other than to pass the remainder of a dull, wet, miserable Sunday. In your case, Bob, if you shelled out quite a bit for your X-Y table, your quote is probably more apt!

                        In my book the best use for a Super Adept lathe would be to carry out a careful restoration during which some knowledge of lathes might be learned, some skills developed and a "wish list" of facilities required for a future lathe compiled. It would also be useable for making small parts. At the end it might be worth a few bob too so it can be flogged to help finance the next lathe or, If not, then it could put on a shelf as a memory of past fun – who knows it maybe a future antique!

                        RANT

                        Will everyone PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BLUE SKY ! I can't remember blue sky, I doubt that blue ever existed, and I can't imagine the sky ever will be blue. Just face up to it SKY IS GREY – at least I think it is when it's possible to see it through the rain. Lets stop chasing these wild fantasies, get out in the workshop and cut some GREY metal.

                        Norman

                        #145740
                        Bazyle
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                          @bazyle

                          I take it the idea is not to use it as a lathe?

                          So assuming the owner has another lathe then using it as a tool grinder is gong to be useful, I noticed the other thread had a link to a beginners site that in turn advertised a lathe package that included a set of tipped tools which were bound to be the cheapo type that we all know are crap. So our new lathe owner is going to need a bit of HSS and a grinder.

                          Next it you look a the Lathes site you see it is easily adapted for milling with the topslide used as a vertical slide. This opens up the opportunity to use it for gear cutting. The first item might be a 60 tooth worm wheel to mate with a Meccano worm to make a dividing head to extend the range of wheels it can cut.

                          #145764
                          Robert Dodds
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                            @robertdodds43397

                            Norman,

                            What I was implying in my cack hand way was that the lathe is worth more sold as parts rather than as a complete machine as is seen so often with respect to bare bones machines offered through trade outlets leaving Lots of Lolly to be made from the accessories.
                            Perhaps if I'd known it was off an Adept I would have bid down a bit more but I was happy anyway!
                            So far as the Adept is concerned IMHO restoration might be an interesting challenge for an impecunious but well skilled engineer but will be forever limited in it's capacity to remove metal and handle anything of substantial size.
                            My personal starting point for hobby work was a 3 1/2" Zyto which I still have and treasure but it was soon supplanted by a 5" Atlas as a more appropriate workhorse. Needless to say it came at the right price and with as many extras that I could get thrown in. Holbrooks and Acme Gridleys figured in my commercial engineering.

                            Bob D

                            #145769
                            daveb
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                              @daveb17630

                              51 Adept lathes = 51 DOORSTOPS

                              50 Super Adept lathes = 50 SUPER DOORSTOPS

                              To be fair, they were never intended for high precision work and for lack of anything else probably enabled our ancestors to carry out (small) jobs that would otherwise not have been possible. I don't doubt that there were a few masochists who produced award winning super scale models on these.

                              I once saw an ancient Colchester treadle lathe in a customer's garage. In the chuck was a large nail which had been attacked by a blunt, off centre tool. The finish was everything you would expect. I did try to engage the man in conversation but he really didn't want to talk about it.

                              Dave

                              #145780
                              Steven Greenhough
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                                @stevengreenhough56335

                                What I did with my adept lathe was to tell the internet that I’d aquired one…

                                #145783
                                John Stevenson 1
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                                  @johnstevenson1

                                  Super Adapts are like AIDS – you NEVER tell anyone. wink

                                  #145801
                                  maurice bennie
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                                    @mauricebennie99556

                                    Hi all Had one once ,made a clutch for it with an old autocycle front wheel drum brake .

                                    Worked a treat . Maurice

                                    #145803
                                    KWIL
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                                      @kwil

                                      Throw it out into the garden and let it rust to death.

                                      #145806
                                      Oompa Lumpa
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                                        @oompalumpa34302
                                        Posted by Steven Greenhough on 03/03/2014 00:05:16:
                                        What I did with my adept lathe was to tell the internet that I'd aquired one…

                                        Well Steven, you have a sense of humour and I would suggest that is a requirement for this game, so you are halfway there.

                                        graham.

                                        #145822
                                        John McNamara
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                                          @johnmcnamara74883

                                          Hi All

                                          Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away (Actually when I was a kid maybe just double figures) I used to get my hair cut at a Barbour shop where a Mr Nankervis used to cut my hair. It was an auspicious place in Elizabeth St Melbourne. A place with wood panelled private stalls and marble topped benches. shiny chrome bound dark red leather covered Barbour chairs and a patterned terrazzo floor with brass inset lines forming a pattern. Unfortunately it is no longer. Years later I was in London and while staying at the In and Out found Trumpers nearby, a relic from the past, on Curzon Street at the end of half moon street. in the west end. Even though I did not really need one I got my hair cut there too but it was not the same, There was no Mr Nancurvis to talk about metalwork and his his lathe.

                                          Strangely this was my first contact with an Adept lathe. Not mine but the one owned by Mr Nankervis, the one that he talked of so much, how we came to talk of it is a mystery, It was clear we both loved metalworking I never actually saw his workshop but somehow our minds must have met. I could follow his conversation graphically in my mind. It was many years later before I got my own lathe. I suspect the seed was sewn by this man while getting a haircut. I always looked forward to haircuts.

                                          Regards
                                          John

                                          PS: I never did own an Adept my first lathe was an old flat belt driven V bed Colchester. I had a round bed Drummond for a while but passed it on to collector.

                                          Edited By John McNamara on 03/03/2014 12:29:32

                                          #145831
                                          Hi Speed Scrap
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                                            @hispeedscrap

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                                            Edited By Hi Speed Scrap on 03/03/2014 13:12:15

                                            #145834
                                            John Stevenson 1
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                                              @johnstevenson1

                                              have to be a little boat, it's only 1/2" centre hight

                                              Give it that guy at harrogate who sells the pop pop boats ?

                                              #145835
                                              ChrisH
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                                                @chrish

                                                Dave, I would refer you to Mr. John Stevenson's comment 02/03/2014 16:48:26 ? (Before you edited it)

                                                Edited By ChrisH on 03/03/2014 13:34:43

                                                #145836
                                                IanT
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                                                  @iant

                                                  I enjoyed the word picture about your Barber John.

                                                  My Grandad use to take me somewhere very similar (up in Brixton when there was still a Pie and Mash shop there). I think the chairs were black leather and I used to sit on a wooden plank set across the arms and to be "very careful not to scuff the seat".

                                                  No Mr Nancurvis though I'm afraid.

                                                  IanT

                                                  #145868
                                                  Neil Wyatt
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                                                    @neilwyatt

                                                    I have to say, you lot don't have a great deal of imagination. Why not turn it into a lathe?

                                                    ME 2408 17 July 1947 pp. 57-60.

                                                    Neil

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                                                    #145928
                                                    Ian S C
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                                                      @iansc

                                                      Neil, I think I'll just leave my little lathe as is, It's a reminder of another time. Ian S C

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