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    JimmieS
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      @jimmies

      After catching almost 100 wasps in three traditional jam jar traps this morning – I assume some kind neighbour has a nest of which they are unaware – any and all suggestions on the latest spec would be much appreciated.

      Jim

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      #33439
      JimmieS
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        @jimmies
        #425025
        David Colwill
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          @davidcolwill19261

          I'm Thinking some kind of hi res camera with optical recognition software linked to a 30 watt laser!

          #425026
          David Colwill
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            @davidcolwill19261

            Obviously this needs to scan on a pan tilt mount and be able to track the wasp!

            Regards.

            David.

            #425028
            not done it yet
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              @notdoneityet

              Simple. You don’t need a wasp trap at all. Remove the reason why they are there and they will go elsewhere. Your traps are simply attracting them!

              Most wasps will now be hunting for sugar – unlike earlier in the season when they were being fed by their larvae.

              Have you checked your eaves, etc for a nest entrance?

              #425030
              Clive Hartland
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                @clivehartland94829

                Obtain an empty lemonafe bottle and cut the top off just past the curve of the body. Invert the top into the body and staple it together. Make a mix of sugar and jam or even a bit of fish so it will stink and set out and tie to a post to stop it falling over.

                Clive

                #425032
                not done it yet
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                  @notdoneityet

                  Have a look at the video, on this advert, for a high efficiency wasp trap. It is one advert of many for wasbane type traps. Karol, the inventor of the WaspBane trap, is a well renowned expert on wasp habits.

                  **LINK**

                  The fellow on this advert specifically tells you that if you remove the attraction, the wasps will go elsewhere.

                  I keep bees and would now never consider putting any wasp trap close to my hives – not even if a hive is being troubled by wasps! By all means attract them somewhere else and trap them!

                  Clive’s trap works because the wasps fly towards the light. A better trap is one with entry slots lower down and no possible exit at the top. Clive’s version is easier to load and empty.

                  The WaspBane traps are high efficiency. With your jam jars, any wasps which escape will simply return with a load more of their sisters from its nest.

                  I reiterate – remove the attraction and the wasps will go elsewhere for their sugary sustenance.

                  #425033
                  Plasma
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                    @plasma

                    Google waspinator. It's a really effective wasp deterrent rather than trap.

                    The highly territorial wasps see what looks like an established nest and go elsewhere.

                    It really works and is eco friendly.

                    Plasma

                    #425041
                    Neil Wyatt
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                      @neilwyatt

                      Get a pet Badger

                      Neil

                      #425042
                      not done it yet
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                        @notdoneityet
                        Posted by Plasma on 19/08/2019 15:00:58:

                        Google waspinator. It's a really effective wasp deterrent rather than trap.

                        The highly territorial wasps see what looks like an established nest and go elsewhere.

                        It really works and is eco friendly.

                        Plasma

                        They don’t work, according to all(?) the beekeeping forum threads!

                        Further, I doubt that wasps are very territorial, now that they are sugar feeding.

                        #425048
                        Ian S C
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                          @iansc

                          Ifv you can get, or have some Carberil insecticide, put some (teaspoon full) in the bottom of a small plastic jar. Next the fun part, catch a wasp and put it in the jar, shake it around a bit, then let the wasp go, it will head back to the nest. The more you can treat this way the sooner the nest will die out, you should manage without getting stung.

                          Ian S C

                          #425063
                          john fletcher 1
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                            @johnfletcher1

                            We need wasps and other creepy crawlies to pollinate the crops. For far to long we have been poisoning these creatures, which we desperately need . Those farming lot over the pond now have to move bees hives around by the lorry load to pollinate the crops, simply because they have been busy with the chemical sprays for many years. If we are not careful it will be same here. A few people get stung every year and I'm one of them, not nice but you soon get over it.

                            #425076
                            mark costello 1
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                              @markcostello1

                              Yes, seeing a honey bee over here is a hit or miss thing, seen 1 this year. "0" last year. No cherries also.

                              #425082
                              Neil Wyatt
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                                @neilwyatt

                                Yesterday I was at Rosliston, doing some bits on our club observatory.

                                There were insects everywhere, bees, beetles, dragonflies, butterflies and more. I haven't see so many insects at once for years. Wish I'd had a decent camera with me, got a few good snaps on the phone, will try and upload one later.

                                Neil

                                #425085
                                J Hancock
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                                  @jhancock95746

                                  Very sorry JF1, if a wasp is in my air-space it has to die.

                                  #425095
                                  Mike Poole
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                                    @mikepoole82104

                                    They seem to like beer but I thought the one on Saturday was either a bit ambitious or just fancied a swim.

                                    Mike

                                    #425105
                                    Neil Wyatt
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                                      @neilwyatt

                                      Here we go, dragonflies from yesterday. Not bad for phone pictures, but don't get the depth in the compound eyes.

                                      brown hawker 2.jpg

                                      migrant hawker 1.jpg

                                      #425107
                                      Neil Wyatt
                                      Moderator
                                        @neilwyatt

                                        Actually, I'm quite impressed by this phone. Here's one cropped to 1024 pixels wide, so if you right click and 'view image' you can see it without being reduced by themigrant hawker close.jpg website:

                                        #425108
                                        not done it yet
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                                          @notdoneityet

                                          Wasps at this time of the year will not be aiding the grower, either by pollination or by catching pests for feeding their larvae.. The nest is breaking down; the wasps will eat fruit or other sugary substances.

                                          The new queens will be mated and soon hibernate until next spring (I don’t know when the hibernation period might begin). Presumably the queens will still be feeding up for the winter? Yes, wasps are an important part of the eco-system. They and their nests should not be destroyed earlier in the season, unless a specific nuisance.

                                          One possible reason why Neil may be seeing more insects than usual is the ban on certain non-specific insecticides – those that kill or damage bee colonies (amongst the rest of the insect population that also suffers). Another might be the increased temperatures due to climate change?

                                          We need biodiversity more than some think. Humans try to alter the eco-system (agriculture) to their advantage but in the long run we must learn to live with nature and not try to change it. A bit like climate change due to fossil fuel burning altering the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere. A bit like the destruction of the ozone layer by man-made CFCs, which is only slowly recovering after the ban on the worst offending chemicals umpteen years ago. Kill all the insects and we kill ourselves, eventually.

                                          #425115
                                          Bill Phinn
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                                            @billphinn90025

                                            Nice pictures, Neil.

                                            Are they both brown hawkers?

                                            #425129
                                            ChrisB
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                                              @chrisb35596

                                              Speaking about wasps, any idea what this winged insect is? Was enjoying some coffee on the terrace this morning when this 3cm wasp like insect came buzzing around…scared the ….. out of me to be honest. It's about double the size of any wasp or bee I've ever seen! Can't believe I took a photo….ok it's zoomed in, I chickened!

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                                              #425135
                                              Clive Hartland
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                                                @clivehartland94829

                                                It is an Amyblyteles Armatorious, very common and parasite of Moths. No common name.

                                                Clive

                                                #425137
                                                Clive Hartland
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                                                  @clivehartland94829

                                                  Re-the wasps, wasps as such do not eat and can only suck liquid even though they have mandibles. They forage for protien for the larvea who as a reward will give a drop of sweet lliquid from a gland on their rears end. This prompts the wasp to forage again.

                                                  The nest, can be in a tree or loft or shed or underground in a vacant mouse hole. They will enlarge it considerably.

                                                  Often you will see lumps of mud on your car from excavations.

                                                  Disposing of a nest, do it after dark using a torch as a shield. Allowing you to get close. Foam cans with a tube are good but slow. If done in the daytime foraging wasps come back to find the nest smell gone and they hang about for days.They are Pheromone driven. Given from the Queen. Do not use petrol and ignite as I have seen a chap lose his hair and have facial burns as the petrol blew out of the hole in the ground. Heavy volatiles like Nitro Cellulose thinners kill them but put a dustbin lid over the hole to keep the vapour in. They will not re-use an old nest but will build anew each year. Only a hibernatining fertile Queen will survive the winter.

                                                  #425141
                                                  Circlip
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                                                    @circlip

                                                    Nice pictures Neil. Is it a special phone that has an orientation programme built in or is it an app?

                                                    Regards Ian.

                                                    #425145
                                                    Neil Wyatt
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                                                      @neilwyatt
                                                      Posted by Bill Phinn on 20/08/2019 00:25:39:

                                                      Nice pictures, Neil.

                                                      Are they both brown hawkers?

                                                      I think the second one is a migrant hawker.

                                                      @ChrisB – it's a parasitic wasp of some sort. The 'Alien' of the insect world…

                                                      Neil

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