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    martyn nutland
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      Not long ago (26/8/20) I asked for some advice on obtaining a high quality finish on some Austin Seven track rod pins I was machining. The consensus was that I should be making the last pass(es) with a 'shear tool'. In my ignorance I had never encountered a 'shear tool' and I don't think you can buy them.
       
      Anyhow, I sent for a blank and watched Tubal Cain (American not old British) on the internet who happens to deal with making one. I thus ground up something that approximated to Tubal's although not nearly as neat. Tried it on a piece of scrap aluminium and worked like a dream on the finish and even produced swarf like maiden's hair! Picture attached (hopefully)
       
      Thought you'd like to know and receive renewed thanks.
       

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      martyn nutland
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        #503398
        Martin Connelly
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          I made one some years ago for the sole purpose of making a steel between centres test bar (dumbbell type with two raised bands) for setting the tailstock on centre as I didn't have access to suitable grinding equipment. The finish on the bands still looks polished. I haven't used the tool again.

          Martin C

          #503423
          Bo’sun
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            @bosun58570

            Looks like it could be useful tool in the armoury. For a relative newcomer, could someone post a picture of one please. Googling "shear tool" was hopeless.

            #503425
            Phil P
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              @philp

              The shear tool works really well on a shaping machine for finishing cuts.

              You can see the shape of the tool and how it works here.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CWGScRNXfw

              Phil

              Edited By Phil P on 25/10/2020 13:48:16

              #503432
              John Baron
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                @johnbaron31275

                Hi Guys,

                For those of you that saw my fly cutter, I've used "Shear tool" bits in that and you can easily get glass like finishes with it. The idea came about in the early 1900's for use with shapers to get a smooth finish. Bear in mind that in those days they only had carbon steel tools, so getting a fine finish wasn't easy.

                new_flycutter-1.jpg

                Edited to add fly cutter picture.

                 

                Edited By John Baron on 25/10/2020 14:55:10

                #503436
                Martin Connelly
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                  @martinconnelly55370

                  Here is the setting tool I made some time back and the shear bit I made to make it. In use somewhere along the cutting edge is used, not a corner. The top picture shows how the tool is presented to the workpiece, very slow power feed is used.

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                  p1150527.jpg

                  Martin C

                  #503458
                  Nicholas Farr
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                    @nicholasfarr14254
                    Posted by Bo'sun on 25/10/2020 13:28:19:

                    Looks like it could be useful tool in the armoury. For a relative newcomer, could someone post a picture of one please. Googling "shear tool" was hopeless.

                    Hi Bo'sun, try searching for "shear tool for lathe"

                    Regards Nick.

                    #503525
                    Neil Wyatt
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                      @neilwyatt

                      The simplest way to make one is similar to a flat-ended d-bit. Grind a step on a length of round HSS to half diameter, grind relief behind the cutting edge.

                      Fitted in a simple round holder (e.g. a boring bar holder) with the mid point approximately at centre height, you just rotate the tool for the most effective result. Ideally you are taking cuts of a thou or less.

                      Neil

                      #503554
                      Bo’sun
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                        @bosun58570

                        Thank you, it's quite obvious once you've seen one in action.

                        #503754
                        Howard Lewis
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                          @howardlewis46836

                          Sounds like using a square toolbit, with the end ground at an angle, and mounted so that it is below centre height would do the job?

                          Must give it a try!

                          Howard

                          #503794
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            Posted by Howard Lewis on 27/10/2020 15:34:15:

                            Sounds like using a square toolbit, with the end ground at an angle, and mounted so that it is below centre height would do the job?

                            Must give it a try!

                            Howard

                            The edge needs to cross the work at a fairly steep angle. If it's vertical the contact point is automatically at centre height.

                            Neil

                            #503872
                            mechman48
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                              @mechman48

                              Have a look here..

                              **LINK**

                              I made one last year based on the above; works nice giving a fine finish in trials. I'll take a pic of mine later & post.

                              George.

                              #503915
                              mechman48
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                                @mechman48

                                Re. my previous post …My shear tool…

                                shear tool (2).jpg

                                Only used on trial DoC .001-2" haven't got pic of 'angel hair' cuttings, will arrange something later although there are plenty on YouTube.No need for centre height setting as cutting edge tangential to work & can be adjusted up/down to suit as edge wears.

                                George.

                                edited by george… typo's.

                                Edited By mechman48 on 28/10/2020 16:35:51

                                #505022
                                Howard Lewis
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                                  @howardlewis46836

                                  Have tried making one, although not quite in the form shown.

                                  Based on the first couple of cuts, it looks to be an interesting tool.

                                  Thanks for bringing it to our attention!

                                  Howard

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