Tornado Recent Failure

[MonomanParticipant @monoman]

I am sure most members of this forum will know of the failure of the Ebor Flyer on 14th April. Unless I am missing something I am surprised there has been no comment on here.

May I ask posters to not glory in the failure of this the first steam loco built from scratch since the end of BR steam.

[MonomanParticipant @monoman]

Any Knowledge available yet?

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I suppose we are not all into locos, did not know of it myself.

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

As a commuter, I spent 41 miserable years travelling by train daily.

As a result, and having now retired, I for one do not have much interest in full sized trains, steam or not!

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Breakdown mentioned briefly last month on the radio. Didn't shake my world. Anyone want to hear my boring story about blowing a head-gasket? I thought it was exciting, no one else does!

Tornado's a fine engine, but like any other machine, things can and do go wrong. Might be interesting if they can't fix it. Bet they do though!

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Just looked at Website, they hope to be back and running by the 10th July.

[BertyParticipant @berty]

What actually went wrong with it then ?

[Harry WilkesParticipant @harrywilkes58467]

Posted by Berty on 05/06/2018 21:14:49:

What actually went wrong with it then ?

Sorry couldn't resist the temptation 'somebody forgot to put some coal on the fire'

H

[David Standing 1Participant @davidstanding1]

Posted by Berty on 05/06/2018 21:14:49:

What actually went wrong with it then ?

**LINK**

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Hard to believe a valve seizure might not have been exacerbated by the 100mph run, if lubricant flow was compromised?

Neil

[BertyParticipant @berty]

Thank you David.

[David WassonParticipant @davidwasson11489]

Posted by JasonB on 05/06/2018 20:23:42:

I suppose we are not all into locos, did not know of it myself.

I'm pretty sure this is the "Live Steam Locomotive" forum. I would have thought that everyone reading this forum was interested in live steam locomotives.

I think the story about the failure of the "Tornado" is pretty interesting.

David

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Road locomotives, yes. Rail locomotives, not so much…

Edited By Mark Rand on 06/06/2018 01:51:23

[David WassonParticipant @davidwasson11489]

Road locomotives, that's a good one! For most folks, locomotive means railroad. As it turns out, there is a forum here just for "road locomotives". You'll find it if you look for " traction engine". There is no forum for road locomotives.

David

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

A Road Loco is a particular type of traction engine, one primerily used on the road. I would also say that "Railroad" is only used to refer  to a locomotive to people from certain countries.

My comment was based on the whole forum, as the OP said "on here", most people don't look at what topic a post is placed under they just look at latest posts. Quite likely those interested in aircraft may well have seen the heading and clicked on it.

Model engineering is a wide and varied hobby, and even wider if you include the home workshop that is not used for model making. If you want to talk to people who think ME revolves around just trains then there are forums where they gather

J

Edited By JasonB on 06/06/2018 07:33:16

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Technically this is the 'live steam locomotives' sub-topic under the 'model engineering' topic.

Perhaps full size railways should be in the 'Tea Room' with 'Aircraft General Discussion'?

Curiously, given how much it's talked about, we don't have a topic/sub-topic for full size engineering!

The correct terms are 'railway locomotives' and 'road locomotives'

Traction engines are a very specific type of road locomotive, the steam equivalent of a tractor unit (which are those things you see pulling semi-trailers around our motorways.

Oh! Joy of Pedantry

… or perhaps we can all fret a bit less about exactly which topic something is posted under, join the threads that interest us and pass over those that don't and leave them for the folks they do.

Neil

[Clive IndiaParticipant @cliveindia]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/06/2018 09:03:08:

… or perhaps we can all fret a bit less about exactly which topic something is posted under, join the threads that interest us and pass over those that don't and leave them for the folks they do. Neil

Been a long time coming but YESSSS!

[David WassonParticipant @davidwasson11489]

Posted by Clive India on 06/06/2018 09:41:11:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/06/2018 09:03:08:

… or perhaps we can all fret a bit less about exactly which topic something is posted under, join the threads that interest us and pass over those that don't and leave them for the folks they do. Neil

Been a long time coming but YESSSS!

Indeed!!

David

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Back to our previous program:- I had assumed that the piston valves would have rings. Does seizure imply insufficient clearance for the valve pistons themselves or possibly insufficient ring gaps. I'd a thunk that a lubrication failure would result in excess wear rather than seizure. Oh well, It'll be interesting to see what the report says.

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Live steam locomotive subforum

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Edited By Mark Rand on 06/06/2018 11:05:44

[julian atkinsParticipant @julianatkins58923]

https://www.a1steam.com/2018/06/05/repair-progess/

Cheers,

Julian

[David WassonParticipant @davidwasson11489]

Thanks Julian,

I wonder how large that union link is, center to center. Awesome!

David

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Mark Rand on 06/06/2018 11:03:31:

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Live steam locomotive subforum

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You could better argue 'Model Engineering' is the 'subforum', 'Live steam locomotives' is a 'topic' and this is a 'thread'.

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