Todays Boot Find Goodies!

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi All,

Worth getting up early today!

Small lathe with a few issues to be sorted out, nothing special but a nice find. The drill press i really very nice, no chuck but has a small drawbar. No makers names on either.

Anyone have any ideas on these please?

Cheers,

Martin

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Small Lathe & Driil Press

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

I don't recognise it, Martin … but that drill press is a little beauty !!

MichaelG.

[Phil PParticipant @philp]

Possibly A Hauser. Nice find.

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/drills.html

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/Hauser-drill-2.JPG

Phil

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi Phil, yes I really like the drill press, should make a very nice exhibition piece if nothing else. (Some guys get all the luck)

Regards Nick.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Well spotted, Phil

[Martin] please don't be tempted to try fitting any old chuck … according to Phil's first link it should take 6mm watchmakers' collets.

MichaelG.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, Opps! I meant to direct my comments to Martin, in my previous post.

Regards Nick.

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Good point re the collets. I do get them from time to time so will be patient. Looks like a nice little project to fit in between my normal run of the mill refurbs etc.

Somewhere I have a really small machine vice which would go well on the tiny table!

The lathe tailstock has been broken where it has the dovetail to go on the ways, there is a 'spare part' with a matching dovetail which I might be able to do something with. Evidence of a badly done welded repair in the cross slide area too; will know more when I get it apart and cleaned. The 4 screw on jaws for the chuck are there which is good.

Martin

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

The lathe bears a resemblance to a Flexispeed or Ace minor but it doesn't look well enough finished and the foot detail is wrong.

Neil

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

the lathe is I think a Flexispeed student (described but not illustrated on lathes.co.uk – an el-cheapo competitor to the super adept – I have one (there is a photo in my album when I asked for identification) – looks as tho the cross slide is wrecked – as was mine where top + cross slides were brazed together as the screw fixing was obviously too weak – the tailstock is also a very weak point

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Any idea what part of your body you would use to feed that nice little drill, seems an odd position for a presumably bench top drill as it would be dead in the middle of your chest if sitting working?

J

[Clive FosterParticipant @clivefoster55965]

Operating lever position looks as if the drill is intended to be used side on rather than front on. Left hand on the feed, right hand on the work. But it takes up a lot more space that way.

Clive

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by JasonB on 22/01/2017 16:29:28:

Any idea what part of your body you would use to feed that nice little drill, seems an odd position for a presumably bench top drill as it would be dead in the middle of your chest if sitting working?

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I suspect that the unit [or more likely the watchmaker] would be 'rotated' to the left or right, to allow operation with the preferred hand. … Bear in mind that he would be contorted anyway, to view the work through a loupe.

MichaelG.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Does seem a lot of levers and pullies for little gain over a lever that could just have been pulled down avoiding the inherent slop in the linkages and giving better feel.

Not sure I would want to be doubled over close to that drill with a loupe in my eye and the belts passing straight past my head

I did wonder if a length of cord could have been hooked over the end and down to a foot operated board thus leaving both hands free. Or maybe you could rest your elbow on the lever and keep two hands free.

Edited By JasonB on 22/01/2017 17:33:29

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by JasonB on 22/01/2017 17:15:46:

Does seem a lot of levers and pullies for little gain over a lever that could just have been pulled down avoiding the inherent slop in the linkages and giving better feel.

Not sure I would want to be doubled over close to that drill with a loupe in my eye and the belts passing straight past my head

I did wonder if a length of cord could have been hooked over the end and down to a foot operated board thus leaving both hands free. Or maybe you could rest your elbow on the lever and keep two hands free.

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Possibilities, yes … But if you're drilling a 0.1mm hole, I suspect that maximum sensitivity is obligatory.

I can't find a picture of anyone actually using such a machine, but the posture illustrated at the top of this page is pretty common. **LINK**

http://www.historictimekeepers.com/Staffsteps.htm

MichaelG.

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P.S. … I haven't worked-through the geometry of the linkages … perhaps Martin could give us some dimensions when he strips it down. The result may be interesting.

[Phil PParticipant @philp]

There is a picture of something very similar on the "lathes" website, under DIXI

http://www.lathes.co.uk/dixi/

It looks like lots of the watchmaking tool companies made a version of the drill, I have seen similar ones by both Schaublin and Boley as well.

Phil

Edited By Phil P on 22/01/2017 18:02:16

[Martin King 2Participant @martinking2]

Hi All.

Finally got around to sorting out the little drill press. It was not too bad just very gummed up with old grease and dirt. Stripped it down and chucked it all in the ultrasonic bath for a while and it came up well. Left the original finish alone. Sadly no collets for it but we will see how it goes.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Looks just right, Martin

MichaelG.

[Dave SpicerParticipant @davespicer27262]

Just wondering if this is a Tapping machine and the lever at the bottom changes the engagement of the pulleys and the counter weight returns the direction to start another.

I repaired something similar a few years ago but can't remember the name.

Dave

[Chris GunnParticipant @chrisgunn36534]

I'm with Dave Spicer on this one, a small tapping machine, I recall a machine called a Flash tapper. Either way a good find.

Chris Gunn

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Phil P on 22/01/2017 14:55:07:

Possibly A Hauser. Nice find.

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/drills.html

http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/tools/drills/Hauser-drill-2.JPG

Phil

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Dave & Chris,

I think you will find enlightenment by following Phil's links ^^^

MichaelG.

**LINK**

[Michael Smith 15Participant @michaelsmith15]

It;s a tapping machine I have a slightly large one in daily use . In between the two pulleys there should be 2 cone clutches . The belt goes from the motor over one idler around one pulley back around the second idler back around the second pulley then back over the 3rd idler to the motor ,

when the lever is pushed down it engages one cone clutch and powers the tap into the work piece when pressure is taken off the lever the weight engages the second clutch and reverses the spindle direction.

[thaiguzziParticipant @thaiguzzi]

The tapper is a beaut!

Go on, tell us, how much did you pay?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Michael Smith 15 on 03/03/2017 22:40:59:

It;s a tapping machine I have a slightly large one in daily use . In between the two pulleys there should be 2 cone clutches . The belt goes from the motor over one idler around one pulley back around the second idler back around the second pulley then back over the 3rd idler to the motor ,

when the lever is pushed down it engages one cone clutch and powers the tap into the work piece when pressure is taken off the lever the weight engages the second clutch and reverses the spindle direction.

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I stand corrected … 'though I remain surprised.

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Michael Smith 15 on 03/03/2017 22:40:59:

It;s a tapping machine I have a slightly large one in daily use . < etc. >

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For my penance …

**LINK**

http://www.nielsmachines.com/en/schaublin-automatic-sensitive-tapping-drill-press.html

MichaelG.

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