“TINKER” tool & cutter grinder

[victor mcconvilleParticipant @victormcconville47638]

Hello Vic here again,

Has anybody come across a “TINKER tool & cutter grinder.

I read about this tool in an American website ( guy lautard.com)

I would like to pursue this further,the website sells a set of plans to make this grinder but I would like to know before buying the plans  has anyone else tried to make this unit.( I am Scottish and a bit canny with my cash.)

Thank you in advance

Vic

ps I told you I would be Back

[victor mcconvilleParticipant @victormcconville47638]

[Jim WhetrenParticipant @jimwhetren72358]

Hello Vic,

 

I got the plans many years ago, and although at that time I think the castings were available, being an honourary ‘Scot’, I made mine as a built up item.

 

Since making it I have sharpened most things from lathe tools to taps.

 

If you want more info, send me a message.

 

Jim

[Michael Cox 1Participant @michaelcox1]

Hi Vic,

Have alook on the website http://www.gadgetbuilder.com. This sit e has much information on the Tinker cutter grinder, as well as experiences of using it.

Mike

[keithmartParticipant @keithmart]

Hi

How strange, I was looking at that site as well yesterday. I would be interested in info from someone who has made one as well.

How do we contact you Jim?

Regards

Keith

Leeds UK

[Jim WhetrenParticipant @jimwhetren72358]

Hello Keith,

 

just log on and send a ‘Message member’.

 

Jim

[Chris BParticipant @chrisb73862]

I got a set of plans last year but have not done anything with them yet.

 

I was lucky to have a contact in the states at the time who could order the plans for me and brought them back with him rather than the rather messy way that Mr Lautard wanted payment from anywhere other than the US/Canada.

 

Chris..

[Colin RogersParticipant @colinrogers93711]

Hi,

 

I’m very interested in building a Tinker tool but the method of payment requested from Canada for plans is very messy. Has anyone got details of a UK source? 

 

Colin 

Edited By Colin Rogers on 23/08/2010 15:07:35

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

The Tinker is a very simple cutter grinder.

I think you could figure it out very easily.

I would estimate that the main upright is about 210mm long.

It would be an ideal project to cut out of solid cast iron.

The castings are very heavy.

 

regards David

 

 

 

Edited By David Clark 1 on 23/08/2010 15:30:53

[Gone AwayParticipant @goneaway]

I notice the website does state that you need a lathe with better than 7/8″ spindle bore to machine the toolholder for this.

 

That would be problematic  for me and, I suspect, a few others.

[David Clark 13Participant @davidclark13]

Hi There

Spindle is 20mm diameter. Could be done with a fixed steady but I would buy a parallel shank ER holder and use that. Don’t need a large bore lathe.

regards David 

[chris jParticipant @chrisj]

I realise that this is an old thread but it's the only one that comes up when you use the search function.

Anyway I have managed to pick one of these gadgets up and will undoubtedly have questions when it arrives.

Jim, do you have any pictures of your set-up?

In fact does anyone have any pictures?

Tinker

[Another JohnSParticipant @anotherjohns]

Kind of off topic;

Had one made by then-club member Frank McLean ("Live Steam" readers know who he is). In the "share and share alike" mode, I lent it to a second club member who then inconveniently passed away. His "stuff" purchased by a third, who is not parting with "his" Tinker grinder!

This is a few years ago; I'm not going to touch one of those again, bad luck for me! I now have a Worden, and have learnt my lesson…

Another JohnS.

[chris jParticipant @chrisj]

Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 04/09/2012 23:18:16:

Kind of off topic;

Had one made by then-club member Frank McLean ("Live Steam" readers know who he is). In the "share and share alike" mode, I lent it to a second club member who then inconveniently passed away. His "stuff" purchased by a third, who is not parting with "his" Tinker grinder!

This is a few years ago; I'm not going to touch one of those again, bad luck for me! I now have a Worden, and have learnt my lesson…

Another JohnS.

This belonged to someone who passed away

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

The same person sold a Stent a few weeks ago. Some things like this with decent owners could go on for a hundred years passing from one model engineer to another. If it was his relative I hope he keeps one of the models in the family.

When you think about the design it is like a very (yes very very) stripped down Quorn so you might be able to extend and adapt it from looking at one of those.

[chris jParticipant @chrisj]

Posted by Bazyle on 05/09/2012 22:18:39:

The same person sold a Stent a few weeks ago. Some things like this with decent owners could go on for a hundred years passing from one model engineer to another. If it was his relative I hope he keeps one of the models in the family.

When you think about the design it is like a very (yes very very) stripped down Quorn so you might be able to extend and adapt it from looking at one of those.

I saw a book on the Quorn, I may have to get that to see if it inspries me to greatness, some chance. Anyway thanks for the idea.

Chris

[Sam Longley 1Participant @samlongley1]

I would also like to build this model ( please do not suggest other models in replying) & have been in touch with Guy Lautard who is willing to send me the drawings in PDF format for 50 canadian dollars. I can then print them out on 93 A4 sheets here in the UK. At least that should save surprise import duty etc

I have some castings off a woodworking machine that look almost identical to those in the plans.They can certainly be adapted

I wanted to pay by electronic transfer but have been told by his wife that she will not give me the IBAN account details for me to pay into. Understandable, I suppose, as she does not know if I am genuine. She says her bank will charge her a lot to accept the payment electronically.

Is that true & is payment by cheque from me, with a 25 day clearance time the other end, the only way I can do this? Will that then cost me a lot to get it cleared my end?

Has anyone experience of overseas payment, whereby I can pay someone who is not set up for paypal etc.

Come to that, has anyone got a set of plans I can buy to save the hassle

Has anyone any suggestions please

Thanks

Sam L

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

A few times I have ordered from Germany where the company wanted bank transfer and I had to increase the amount to cover what their bank charged them. I also had to pay my bank a fee so not a cheap way to buy things but what she says is true.

Website says they take Western Union but I've not tried that.

Edited By JasonB on 09/04/2021 07:51:39

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 09/04/2021 07:17:54:

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Has anyone experience of overseas payment, whereby I can pay someone who is not set up for paypal etc.

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In principle, the ‘Friends and Family’ section of PayPal should allow you to send money to ‘most anyone … although you would not have the protective comfort of dealing with a merchant.

… I think you might have as little protection as when posting cash in an envelope.

I do buy from SurplusShed, but Fred sends me a Payment Request and Invoice.

MichaelG.

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Ref. https://www.paypal.com/uk/smarthelp/article/how-do-i-send-money-faq1684

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 09/04/2021 08:04:28

[Nick Clarke 3Participant @nickclarke3]

Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 09/04/2021 07:17:54:

I would also like to build this model ( please do not suggest other models in replying) & have been in touch with Guy Lautard who is willing to send me the drawings in PDF format for 50 canadian dollars. I can then print them out on 93 A4 sheets here in the UK. At least that should save surprise import duty etc

While 50 CD is not that excessive – looking at David Clark's picture where do 93 A4 sheets come into it?

Edited By Nick Clarke 3 on 09/04/2021 08:30:01

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

User instructions and various attachments by the looks of it.

Was it in any of his books? as that may be another way to get the drawings.

Edited By JasonB on 09/04/2021 08:36:45

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

It wasn't in any of Lautard's books, he just offered to sell you the drawings. It might be possible to ask Ms. Lautard if she has a favourite international charity (e.f. Red Cross, MSF, UNICEF) to which you could make a contribution?

[DMBParticipant @dmb]

JasonB,

I have all of GLs books and confirm that drawings not in any of them.

Clever design requiring only one pattern to produce 2 identical iron castings, obviously helps keep cost down. They are machined slightly differently to serve their different purposes. The long flat part is machined both sides and slotted the same. The end "lump" is bored the same diameter to accept a PGMS bar common to both bores. Then the variations start…..

One casting acts as a base to be fixed to your baseboard and the other becomes the upright, supporting the toolholder block of square section cast iron.

I acquired the 2 iron castings many years ago from a fellow club member after purchasing the drawings from Guy. I am unable to say why the situation appears to have since changed – you will have to do your own research. Mine has got very near completion but suspended for no other reason than I wanted to also build Harold Hall's jig and write about progress in my clubs newsletter. HH s jig doesn't use castings, only stock metric sizes of steel bar but I have 'got away' with 2" sq instead of 50mm and 1 1/4" sq instead of 32mm Refer to ME No. 4662, for comments on Sources of metric bar.

I see no reason why the castings couldn't be done in Ali at home by someone who has the gear to do so. I understand that there is little difference between CI and Ali, as regards vibration damping but perhaps somebody knows better?

John

[jon hill 3Participant @jonhill3]

Hi Sam

If wiring the money is a problem with your bank open up a Transferwise account, foreign exchange fees are minimal as it is set up to match people who already have the currencies necessary.

By the way I think Transferwise are now called Wise.

[John BaronParticipant @johnbaron31275]

Hi Guys,

I do believe the "Tinker" was originally designed in the UK ! I believe that I've seen drawings in ME or MEM quite some years ago. There was another very similar TCG published as well, the "Raymac" By an Irish writer ! The two are very similar. I used to have some castings from a bloke in Fens, I suspect they have been lost in a move back on the 1990's.

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