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    RRMBK
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      @rrmbk

      Good day all

      Does anyone know or have experience of whether it is feasible to test an injector off line against a pressure head by using compressed air? Obviously there is not the same amount of expansive energy available, but will the inlet flow being gas rather than wet steam stop it from working altogether?

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      RRMBK
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        #357127
        Nigel Bennett
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          No, I'm afraid that you need a supply of steam to make a steam injector work! The whole principle of its operation is that the water feed condenses the steam, which gives up its latent heat of vaporisation, thereby imparting sufficient energy to the water to enable it to be fed into the boiler. Air has no latent heat and the injector will not work. Yes, there will be changes of velocity and pressure with an air/water arrangement due to the changes in the bore of the cone sections, but not enough to enable it to feed against boiler pressure.

          You'll need a bespoke Test Boiler to do a lot of testing; DAG Brown gives some hints and tips in his book, which is well worth a read.

          #357155
          Clive Brown 1
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            @clivebrown1

            Laurie Lawrence, in his series on injectors in ME 1986, mentions an injector testing pressure valve designed by Bill Carter, but I have no reference for it. It enables testing against boiler pressure, but with the water delivery going to waste instead of filling the boiler. Could be useful, has anyone got more details?

            #357187
            Anonymous

              I expect the injector to not work with compressed air. In the combining cone conservation of momentum rules. I don't see how the latent heat of vaporisation creates pressure energy in the water? A fast moving stream of steam combines with more or less stationary water. Of course the steam condenses so the combined stream of only water, with the same total momentum, can then be slowed in the delivery cone to create pressure. Therein lies the problem with compressed air, the stream entering the delivery cone will be a mix of air and water and so won't produce the same pressure.

              Of course the latent heat released when the steam condenses has to go somewhere. it goes to heat the feed water. If there is sufficient heat to reach boiling point then the injector will stop working. Hence there is a limit on the temperature of the feed water for an injector to work. That temperature vaies with the ratio of steam to water and with initial steam pressure.

              Andrew

              #357396
              Chris Gunn
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                @chrisgunn36534

                RR, if you are trying to find out if the injector is working, if it is already on an engine, just loosen the tube nut on the clack inlet slightly and try it, and you will see if water is being forced through as far as the clack. If it is working but water is not getting into the boiler then the clack is the most likely reason.

                Chris Gunn

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                Colin Harwood
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                  @balljoint

                  Have a look at this page where a simplified Bill Carter test rig is described.

                  http://www.modeng.johnbaguley.info/injectors/injectors2.htm.

                  SMEE has the original Bill Carter test rig in its collection. 3 of us spent an afternoon using it to test some homemade injectors, although we could not get it to work properly, probably operator error.

                  Colin

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