Plastic Ban

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

NEWS:

**LINK**

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180426141530.htm

MichaelG.

[Phil WhitleyParticipant @philwhitley94135]

Mick Charity, How am I part of the problem?, it is very unlikely that my fence will end up in the sea, it has been up more than 15 years and still seems perfect, and the only point in recycling plastic is to use it for another purpose. If you are going to make a ridiculous statement like "you are part of the problem" please try to form and post logical argument as to why this is so!

[MeunierParticipant @meunier]

Very interesting research, Michael, thank you for the link.

if they can jump to up-scaling the processes of producing/recycling then any cost differentials could be overcome by legislating.
DaveD

[JonParticipant @jon]

Isnt all this fuss about the dumping of the recycled plastics in to the ocean.

Rather than cure the problem its Joe public that pays the price, same with emissions on cars.

[Sam Longley 1Participant @samlongley1]

Posted by Phil Whitley on 27/04/2018 20:59:51:

Mick Charity, How am I part of the problem?, it is very unlikely that my fence will end up in the sea, it has been up more than 15 years and still seems perfect, and the only point in recycling plastic is to use it for another purpose. If you are going to make a ridiculous statement like "you are part of the problem" please try to form and post logical argument as to why this is so!

Sorry but I tend to agree with Mick Charity on this one.

If wood is not recycled it will break down in time & go back into the earth. It is part of nature's cycle ( Not the paint I accept). It is a natural product that can be produced in large quantities. Your plastic needs significant energy to produce (as an aside, does it also use oil in the production process? I am not sure!!) & will, contrary to what you infer, be a real pain to dispose of & in spite of your comment will probably end up in landfill anyway. In most cases one may be deluding one's self about recycling such products & I tend to wonder how much is, truthfully, being recycled.

 

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 29/04/2018 07:07:59

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 29/04/2018 07:05:34:In most cases one may be deluding one's self about recycling such products & I tend to wonder how much is, truthfully, being recycled.

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 29/04/2018 07:07:59

The truth is you will find it very difficult to get the truth. There are precious few sources of the truth surrounding recycling plastics.

When I was involved in the recycling industry the majority of the mixed plastics collected from households, either from the doorstep or at household waste recycling centres, was bailed & shipped to China. I'm told that China is now refusing these shipments, so it'll be going to India now instead. The rest is transported to the Benelux countries where it is burned in power generating incinerators, which IMO is a much more sensible thing to do. Something we should have planned for 10yrs ago.

[RobinParticipant @robin]

I hope this doesn't include the jolly useful plastic straw that comes with the various spray cans of lubricants, solvents and snake oil that I enjoy so much…

…and what about that toy at the far end of my workshop that I have been tarting up, on and off, for the past few years? Are thety going to ban toys?

[JonParticipant @jon]

Better hope the switches dont break Robin.
Settled in yet need another repair on Combro.

[RobinParticipant @robin]

Posted by Jon on 29/04/2018 20:51:14:

Better hope the switches dont break Robin.
Settled in yet need another repair on Combro.

Switches? Which switches? Am I expecting problems with switches? It has momentary switches, click on/click off switches, microswitches, proximity switches, thermal switches and hydraulic switches. Could you be more specific?

Italso has a card full of relays which confused me momentarily. When I drew the circuit it turned out that they were latching relays for the guards. The idea being that a guard could switch enough current to hold the relay but not enough to pull it in. I had to change a lot of relays before that bit worked

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

From National Geographic, in today's News: **LINK**

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/05/plastic-bag-mariana-trench-pollution-science-spd/

MichaelG.

[Raymond Sanderson 2Participant @raymondsanderson2]

I wonder if the Australian Government will force Australia Post to cease using the heavy duty plastic bags for parcels.??

The hospitals for using special coloured liners for waste?

If Government depts will cease using all the plastic folders etc??

With the likes of 3d printers will they become a waste problem from many peoples disgarded mistakes?

[Stuart BridgerParticipant @stuartbridger82290]

One of my personal gripes is premixed windscreen washer fluid.

1) The container is much larger than for needed for a bottle of concentrate, more packaging waste
2) Unnecessarily moving water around, more energy needed to transport
3) Larger volume of packaging than required, taking up more space on delivery trucks.

All for a bit of convenience in not having to find a tap

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Perhaps in the same spirit pubs could accept concentrated beer syrup and a box of dehydrated water tablets?

pgk (sorry)

[Stuart BridgerParticipant @stuartbridger82290]

pgk, quite right that deserves an apology, made me laugh though.

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