“It” comes to life again

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

This is going off of where Curly put the lines on the drawing for this locomotive.

Chances of me keeping the lines where they are have dropped to exactly zero, I will be copying them off of the King class in BR guise.

The wheels will always be poorly drawn.
Sorry.

Not really.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Looks great from here

[Jon LawesParticipant @jonlawes51698]

That looks fantastic. I like the high running boards of this design.

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Posted by Jon Lawes on 03/06/2018 18:59:25:

That looks fantastic. I like the high running boards of this design.

Curiously, I do believe that the original high running boards on this were what doomed the design. They looked awful, almost akin to a snowplow.

Thanks everyone for the kind words

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

I made a gut wrenching discovery today- I think that I am going to have to go back through this monster and see what I have and have not completed, double check a lot of the parts and ensure that I have not made some glaring errors with this beast.

I'm looking forward to it about as much as I am looking forward to a hole in the head.

However, it did crop up out of the woodwork for me already today, so this is about to get really stupid.

Not to mention I am going to have to relocated the mechanical lubricator, since I have decided to only draw this locomotive up in its modified form.

Now, as far as the next project is concerned should I:

-Revisit Rose?
-Finish Zoe?
-Finish up doing the Dot/Doris family?

There is plenty to chose from!

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

I wish I could say that I was satisfied with how it turned out the first time.
I wish I could say that I had done a better job with a lot of these parts the first time around.
I wish I could say a lot of things because guess who is going back through the WHOLE BLOODY LOCOMOTIVE AND DOUBLE CHECKING EVERYTHING!?
Me.

Since I have decided against trying to draft the locomotive in its original form (just too ugly) there are some minor modifications which I have to do to this beast in order for everything to fit correctly.

I learned the value of NOT getting out of order with this sort of thing- it can be bad.

[Perko7Participant @perko7]

Posted by Dean da Silva on 04/06/2018 04:19:27:

Now, as far as the next project is concerned should I:

-Revisit Rose?
-Finish Zoe?
-Finish up doing the Dot/Doris family?

I recall you had previously mentioned a strong attraction to Zoe so i think you should allow that itch to be scratched.

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Posted by Perko7 on 06/06/2018 10:20:33:

Posted by Dean da Silva on 04/06/2018 04:19:27:

Now, as far as the next project is concerned should I:

-Revisit Rose?
-Finish Zoe?
-Finish up doing the Dot/Doris family?

I recall you had previously mentioned a strong attraction to Zoe so i think you should allow that itch to be scratched.

You sir are correct!
I think that gauge 1 designs of Curly's represent probably one of his most interesting cross sections of work, and the one that I am most interested in drafting frankly. Here's why:

1. More of these designs have vanished than are still sold commercially.

2. His first serial ever was for an American gauge 1 locomotive.

3. It's an interesting spread to say the least, ranging from standard gauge locomotives to narrow gauge (in both 1/2" scale and 3/4" scale)

4. I really like the fact that there are riding models in this range of his, and designs which have been halved that are compatible with the 3 1/2" gauge versions.

5. A lot of his designs in other scales have gauge one variants, which is nice.

6. The America "issue". If I plan on building any of these (which I likely would) here's the status of the various gauges in the UK in the US:

-0 Gauge live steam: mostly 16mm scale, other wise standard gauge (1:43/1:48) doesn't exist really.
-1 Gauge: wildly popular. I would love to build one that can be ridden, ride it, and blow some American minds.
-2.5" Gauge: dead
-3.5" Gauge: alive, sort of catching on again.
-5" Gauge: doesn't exist really.

7. I do need to do other things with my time (learn to machine, find a future Mrs. da Silva) than draft. 3.5" gauge locomotives have a lot of parts on them compared to the gauge 1 versions. I also have work from clients, which suffice to say is a headache of its own right. The gauge 1 locomotives won't be as time consuming or cause me to pull out as much of my hair, at least I don't think.

Satan's rebirth, part II.

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

The devil spawn coming back to life, part III.

I noticed a lot of little stupid mistakes- holes omitted, threads skipped, etc. that I didn't originally pick up on.
The good news is that nothing has had to be redrawn completely yet- but the cylinders will require some serious attention.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Still watching with interest. Keep up the good work!

Dave

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

I had some work to do on the cylinders, I didn't exactly finish them up right when I drafted the originally.

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Alright I'm back at it.

In order to prevent me from having a third burn out on this locomotive I have made the decision that in the future I won't likely draft back head fittings or lubricators. Regulators yes, but the pipe work on the back head and injectors fall into the "probably not" category. Here's why:

1. A lot of people buy them pre-made.
2. I don't know how it will be when I machine them, but I am 98% certain that drawings for those will not be what guides me. It would be literally written instructions.
3. Running the pipes for this thing can get very tedious, very annoying, and very time intensive. I don't enjoy that, it's what caused me to burn out on this thing for a second time.

A friend of mine in the UK really did take a liking to my revision of Ivy Hall, and he thinks we should build it.
This could get interesting, since my ability with machining is… bad and he's in the UK. He might end up machining the castings while I do the assembly and what not in the states. 

Forgive the bad writing, its late.
Since I drew up the lubricator already, its on there.
The running boards were put on to test whether or not they would clear the lubricator, which I moved back half an inch. Thankfully it clears everything.

As far as the cab goes, stupid question on my behalf, does British Railways usually leave the cab window trim brass or is it painted to go with the rest of the locomotive?

 

Edited By Dean da Silva on 14/07/2018 07:59:42

[TomfileryParticipant @tomfilery]

Dean,

It's really nice to see you back – hope you won't drive yourself too hard this time.

You are doing a lovely job – as usual!

Regards Tom

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Posted by Tomfilery on 14/07/2018 08:57:44:

Dean,

It's really nice to see you back – hope you won't drive yourself too hard this time.

You are doing a lovely job – as usual!

Regards Tom

Tom,

Curiously I am getting to a part which is more enjoyable, the boiler.
I once thought this boiler was the worst boiler I could imagine, boy was I wrong- Mr. Evans gave me a nasty surprise with Natal.

It's a beautifully elegant design but since I was having trouble getting it exactly right it went from being "Wow, this is impressive, thermal siphon, angled flues, very modern" to "What a piece of crap, can't you just design a simple boiler like the one the 15F has?!"

It should be noted that the boiler is still wrong in this rendering, I actually hung up the proverbial hat on this one all together and handed over copies of the files to a VERY talented South African draftsman.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

[David George 1Participant @davidgeorge1]

Dean I am amazed with your skill and determination I look forward to your posts to see what I would love to do if only.

David

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Posted by David George 1 on 15/07/2018 07:39:35:

Dean I am amazed with your skill and determination I look forward to your posts to see what I would love to do if only.

David

Thank you sir, it's a labour of masochism.

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Alright here it is again.

The good news was that the boiler for the most part was correct, there were only little tiny errors that I found with things that fall into the category of "annoyance" rather than anything else.

I must admit this locomotive has warmed me a bit to British Railways locomotives, despite the fact that I think that they look like soulless versions of big four locomotives that have been nationalised and other wise sold themselves to the devil in the name of standardisation.

I am 100% positive that I will need to find the book/articles for BR 75000 to detail this thing as I would like it.

No matter what happens with these designs though, I do plan on still trying to at the bare minimum find a way to preserve all of LBSC's writing, designs, etc. How that would happen, be allowed etc. I have no idea, but from the advice of a friend who works in the world of museums, that would be the best bet. 
I don't know how long my sanity will hold drafting his designs, but as long as the words and music are preserved, I think I would be happy.

For the record, I had no idea how many locomotives he designed.
The count so far (which I can get into the finer points of how I arrived at this number) is north of 200.

There is no way on this earth that I would ever want to put this much attention into that many locomotives, I am already being harangued for grand children by my parents as it is- which takes priority over drawing gobs of locomotives.  

 

Edited By Dean da Silva on 15/07/2018 09:11:57

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

Sorry about the delay, I caught a case of the ebola cold.
It doesn't rain where I live (I'll post evidence of why) and when it does finally sprinkle its as though every illness known to man is carried in those few pathetic drops and a bunch of people fall ill.

For some reason I was very pleased with how the superheater elements turned out on this locomotive.

[Dean da SilvaParticipant @deandasilva59410]

The large steam pipes that run to the cylinders I don't think were described with this locomotive.
There were so many errors I decided to go back and double check a lot of parts, which was wise.
The trouble with that is that is this locomotive is going to take longer.

Thankfully, nothing was THAT badly skewed that it was much effort to correct. For all intents and purposes, I am caught up now, in terms of double checking parts.
I am sure that I will have to make another pass at this beast.

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