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    Nick_G
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      #168944
      Nick_G
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        .

        Are the range of Humbrol enamel paints suitable for painting a model steam engine that later in it's life may have 'live steam' fed to it.

        Basically is it capable of being used at the temperatures the cylinder will achieve and of course able to resist oil.

        Also would 'real' engines have been finished in a gloss or a more satin paint.?

        Cheers, Nick

        #168945
        JasonB
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          Should be OK with Humbrol thats whatI used on my couple of Stuarts. Brunswick green is about right.

          Too glossy a finish can look a bit toy like but if you spray teh Humbrol the thinners helps to knock off a bit of teh sheen. Phoenix are also worth looking at.

          So is it all done and ready for paint then?

          #168946
          Nick_G
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            Posted by JasonB on 07/11/2014 15:56:04:

            So is it all done and ready for paint then?

            Yeahhh, course.! cheeky

            Nick

            #168948
            Neil Wyatt
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              Isn't there a law against using anything other than Humbrol 3 Brunswick Green and 21 Gloss Black for Stuart engines?

              Neil

              #168950
              Kevin Bennett
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                hi I use RUSTINS paint search for ruskins Buckingham green paint on eBay I have found it very good and the finish is a nice gloss

                Kevin

                #168965
                Vic
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                  Posted by Neil Wyatt on 07/11/2014 16:32:25:

                  Isn't there a law against using anything other than Humbrol 3 Brunswick Green and 21 Gloss Black for Stuart engines?

                  Neil

                  Oh yes.

                  ^^^ Kevin^^^ is in real trouble now! smiley

                  #168968
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    Actually I've seen a few Stuarts in blue that look quite nice. Cream would also look good on the table engine. Or our German friends like a touch of satin black which is OK but they do tend to buff up the brass a bit too much for my liking.

                    #168970
                    Boiler Bri
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                      I painted my first traction engine with Humrol. Worked a treat and never had a problem, apart from runs and streaks from using a brush!

                      I am not sure if it is still made in the uk at Hull or not! 😚 maybe Hornby have moved it to China like all their other stuff.

                      #168971
                      FMES
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                        @fmes

                        Hi Nick,

                        I use Humbrol enamel on my engines, the gloss black is good on the cylinders, I've seen oil boiling on mine,but reds tend to discolour after a while and give that well used look.

                        #168973
                        Nick_G
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                          Pink.!!!!! surprise

                          Yup deffo pink. It will be errrrrrrrrr, well, unique don't you all think.? devil indecision

                          Nick winkwinkwink

                          #168974
                          Vic
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                            Can I hijack this thread a minute and ask what you can add to Gloss paint to give it a Satin finish instead?

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                            Nick_G
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                              Posted by Vic on 07/11/2014 19:24:34:

                              Can I hijack this thread a minute and ask what you can add to Gloss paint to give it a Satin finish instead?

                              .

                              I personally don't consider that a hijack in any form. – It's related to a general painting question so I would say well and truly 'on topic'

                              No idea what to add to the paint though. frown

                              Nick

                              #168985
                              JasonB
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                                I think Phoenix that I linked to above do a matting agent. Accelerating the drying can also help thats what I do when using artists oils on my model figure, stand them directly under a 100w light bulb.

                                #168998
                                Gordon A
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                                  Quote from the Hornby website/news 28/11/2012 :

                                  Humbrol’s manufacturing has been moved back to the UK from China to improve supply, and ensure high quality standards continue to be met, but from an easier location nearer to the Margate Head Office.

                                  Gordon.

                                  #169004
                                  Ed Duffner
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                                    Posted by Vic on 07/11/2014 19:24:34:

                                    Can I hijack this thread a minute and ask what you can add to Gloss paint to give it a Satin finish instead?

                                    Hi Vic,

                                    I've never tried but maybe adding satin clear to a gloss may take the edge off the sheen. Other than that you could always spray a top coat of satin over your gloss colour.

                                    I have polished matt paint in the past to make a kind of scale lacquer finish on 1/35th armour barrels.

                                    Ed.

                                    #224554
                                    Matt Homer 1
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                                      Humbrol Enamel Gloss or Acrylic gloss ? …going to start building the Myfordboy Steam engine soon so going to order some paint…thanks Matt

                                      #224556
                                      Neil Wyatt
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                                        @neilwyatt

                                        > going to start building the Myfordboy Steam engine soon so going to order some paint

                                        Another quick worker!

                                        Neil

                                        #224566
                                        JasonB
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                                          @jasonb

                                          I find the solvent base enamels level out better so would go for them in preference to the acrylic if you are brushing it on.

                                          #224575
                                          Matt Homer 1
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                                            @matthomer1

                                            Thanks …. got a reply from David (myfordboy YouTube)

                                            I always use the Precision pain on my models, without any primer. Humbrol would be fine though but go for the gloss enamel although if you are going to run on steam I don't know how that one does.

                                            Some of my friends use car spray but that is probably more expensive than precision paints.

                                            if you want the same colour as i used it's P125 B R Southern coach green (gloss)

                                            #224590
                                            Robbo
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                                              Humbrol do make a range of Satin enamels as well as Gloss, but only one green in it. The range of Matt paints is huge.

                                              #279983
                                              Jac Schijvens 1
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                                                iam looking for a adress for the very small adhesive striping on a Allchin Traction engine

                                                #280022
                                                JasonB
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                                                  @jasonb

                                                  Blackgates do the waterslide transfer set for the Alchin, page 117 of this pdf

                                                  #280033
                                                  Scrumpy
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                                                    I used humbro to paint a live steam engine sadly the paint faded ( red orange ) so I changed to Craftmaster but there tins are on the large side but using a tumber system the paint has kept in good condition I have also used there lining paint to paint a model they are worth a look

                                                    #280063
                                                    Maurice Cox 1
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                                                      With reference to the "right" colour for Stuart engines, In the past, I was able to look in Stuarts window in Henley on an almost weekly basis and the engines on display were more of an olive green; I still have some old Stuart oscillating engines with the original paint on, again they are olive green. I reality I doubt that Stuarts regarded it as a sort of livery, it was just green paint. Use whatever shade you think looks best.

                                                      Maurice

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