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    OuBallie
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      @ouballie

      In – Out, Back – Forward,

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      #163509
      OuBallie
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        @ouballie

        'End of World still Nigh' but need to keep myself occupied while waiting.

        I have fitted two DPDT 3-position toggle switches to the FeedRodMotor remote station;

        1) Left/Off/Right for the Saddle movement selection,

        2) ?/Off/? for the Cross-slide ditto, but how to label it is the question.

        Is there a standard for describing the movement?

        The 'net has a selection as usual.

        The same applies to the Y-axis on a milling machine as well.

        This is something I've never bothered with beforehand, but pedant gene is being awkward and in a huff right now.

        Geoff – How long does a %#*+ head cold last?

        #163512
        Ed Duffner
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          @edduffner79357

          How about?

          – Advance / Off / Retard

          – Plunge / Off / Withdraw

          – Advance / Off / Withdraw

          – In / Off / Out

          – Cut / Off / Back-Out

          – ^ / Off / v

          U+2191.svg / Off / U+2193.svg

          smiley

          #163515
          Peter G. Shaw
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            @peterg-shaw75338

            I would say "In-OFF-Out" because for most jobs, one moves the the tool "in" to make the cut, and "out" at the end.

            Advance, Retard, Plunge all seem to imply a different type of operation to me, although they could apply here. Cut, Back-out & Withdraw would be be more applicable I think than the first three, but overall I would go for the In-Out option.

            I have read at least one author talking about "putting the cut on", but I don't recall taking the cut off.

            For milling, I would use Forward-OFF-Backward as in Forward = away from you and Backward = towards you. The trouble with milling is that cutting can take place equally well in either direction, whereas in lathework, most work involves either doing something to a longitudinal external diameter, or facing a disc. Cutting an internal diameter does involve cutting the other way round, but in my limited experience is less often done.

            Regards,

            Peter G Shaw

            #163517
            David Colwill
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              @davidcolwill19261

              I would say X- (slide moving away) off X+ and Z- off Z+ but that's just me crook .

              David.

              #163520
              colin hawes
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                @colinhawes85982

                The convention used for CNC programming is left-to right axis -X table moves to left…….+X table moves to right

                in and out axis -Y table moves out (towards operator)

                in and out axis +Y table moves in (away from operator)

                Vertical axis +Z tool moves up …………..-Z tool moves down

                That's the way I remember it anyway so the cross slide on a lathe would be +/- Y. Colin

                #163531
                Anonymous

                  What Colin describes is true for a CNC mill, but is not true for a lathe. The convention for a CNC lathe is cross travel is X, axial travel is Z and live tooling is specified as the C axis.

                  Regards,

                  Andrew

                  #163542
                  colin hawes
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                    @colinhawes85982

                    Andrew. thank you for the lathe axis description I've only worked with CNC machining centres so I am pleased to learn a little more. It's a useful forum. Colin

                    #163543
                    jason udall
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                      @jasonudall57142

                      On lathes also x+ leaves more metal as does z+…the z axis is generaly “common” to mills..the pseudo y axis for live tooling/milling is a interpolation of x and c axes…the z y plane can also be programmed “wrapped” round the part…again a interpolation of x z and c..lathes with y axis do exist but these are generally deemed machining centers and these have many axis not conveniently named

                      #163617
                      OuBallie
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                        @ouballie

                        Thanks for the responses guys, much appreciated.

                        As usual, the mind boggles at the way English can be used to describe something in a multitude of different ways, and all meaning/describing the same thing.

                        I will give Ed's arrows a try first, and see how I get on with them.

                        Geoff – Head cold clearing, so End of World NOT Nigh

                        #163625
                        jason udall
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                          @jasonudall57142

                          Arrows point ing in the direction of motion…
                          Yep…no need to remember what it means..so at a moment of stress no chance of error. ..all good

                          #166150
                          Howard Lewis
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                            @howardlewis46836

                            With the Common Cold, the rule is:

                            If you do nothing, it will go after seven days. If you take medication, you will be rid in a week!

                            I favour the ideas of arrows, unlikely to be misunderstood.

                            Howard

                            #166152
                            Howard Lewis
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                              @howardlewis46836

                              With the Common Cold, the rule is:

                              If you do nothing, it will go after seven days. If you take medication, you will be rid in a week!

                              I favour the ideas of arrows, unlikely to be misunderstood.

                              Howard

                              #166171
                              OldMetaller
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                                @oldmetaller

                                I now have The Hokey Cokey as an earworm…sad

                                D'oh!

                                Regards,

                                John.

                                #166175
                                Oompa Lumpa
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                                  @oompalumpa34302
                                  Posted by OldMetaller on 10/10/2014 08:04:06:

                                  I now have The Hokey Cokey as an earworm…sad

                                  D'oh!

                                  Regards,

                                  John.

                                  I am not impressed John.

                                  You have now given it me.

                                  Bugger.

                                  graham.

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