Cobalt drill speed to remove broken tap

Cobalt drill speed to remove broken tap

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  • #85658
    John Coates
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      @johncoates48577

      Right the cobalt drills have arrived so I can drill the broken tap out

      Original hole = 5mm

      Tap size = M6 x 1.0mm

      What size cobalt drill should I use and what RPM should I run it at?

      Thanks folks. The sooner you answer the sooner I can get at it.

      Oh and will I need coolant? (I don't have a pumped coolant supply btw)

      John

      #15561
      John Coates
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        @johncoates48577
        #85661
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          I would have thought you wanted solid carbide not Cobalt as thay are not much harder than the HSS the cobalt is added to.

          J

          #85663
          IVATTLMS
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            @ivattlms

            I agree solid carbide slotdrill no problem

            #85666
            John Coates
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              @johncoates48577

              Oh arse!

              #85667
              John Coates
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                @johncoates48577

                What size please for the carbide slot drill? And is ball nose OK?

                #85675
                Clive Foster
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                  @clivefoster55965

                  A three flute carbide centre cutting endmill did the deed for me in a similar situation. Either M2 or M2.5 size and cutting dry in a Bridgeport varispeed running flat out. Somewhat below book speed, which is approximately supersonic, but it shifted 3 dead taps for me. Found the cutter on E-Bay, can't recall the brand but I think it began with N. Not a job I care to remember. Too many holes, hard spotted material, and rapidly blunting taps.

                  Clive

                  #86149
                  John Coates
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                    @johncoates48577

                    Thanks Clive thumbs up

                    Bought a 3 flute 5mm bottom cutting carbide end mill from ebay. Ran it at 1800 rpm and it cut the broken tap out

                    So now I've got a 5mm hole I just need to see if my tap can cut a thread in it as I don't know if using the carbide end mill will have hardened the walls. If not I can cut the thread from a 6mm bolt and silver solder it in place as there will be three other bolts securing the workpiece to the trolley

                    John

                    #86151
                    David Littlewood
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                      @davidlittlewood51847

                      John,

                      You didn't mention – here at least – the material you were tapping, which would affect the answer to your question. Both stainless steel and titanium alloys are notorious for workhardening, other metals mostly less so.

                      Another though – have you seen the Helicoil system for replacing drilled-out tapped holes. Never used it myself but I have seen people say very good things about it.

                      David

                      Edited By David Littlewood on 29/02/2012 15:05:02

                      #86152
                      John Coates
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                        @johncoates48577

                        David

                        Material is a 15mm thick piece of MS plate

                        Yes have seen Helicoils used on motorbikes, my "models" as I don't do trains or tractions (yet) but full sized motorbikes!

                        Will try tapping later on. Just chuffed that the end mill got it out. I did break one of the new cobalt drills though before the end mill arrived, just seeing if it would work crying

                        John

                        #86155
                        Ian Abbott
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                          @ianabbott31222

                          Shouldn't think that ms will work harden.

                          Helicoils have worked a treat for me. A drop of Loctite helps them to stay put.

                          Ian

                          #86239
                          Ian S C
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                            @iansc

                            John, I think I would tend to either make a bolt to fit the enlarged hole with a head to match the other bolts, or if its a stud, make a stepped stud, save you hunting around for Heli-coils, and a tap for them. Or you can do as I think you may be doing, and plug and redrill and tap. Ian S C

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