Beer and Grapefruit

[Ron LadenParticipant @ronladen17547]

The pub in the next village to us still does Bass from a wooden keg, they go out the back to get it when you order a pint. They also do the king of a classic pub sandwich, thick cut home baked bread, heavily buttered, with thick slices of strong cheddar and sliced raw onion….nectar from the gods.

Edited By Ron Laden on 14/09/2018 10:37:47

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

As a young man I was dragged around many a CAMRA pub crawl and found that real ale is best for cracking hangovers. The very names are a clue that not all is well: Woodfords' Head Cracker; Skull Splitter; Ramblers Ruin; Old Stoat Wobbler; Old Slug Porter; and Extinction Ale. Real ale has me spending the following morning calling long distance on the big white telephone whilst wishing I was dead.

I reckon Real Ale is the British equivalent of running with the bulls in Pamplona. People don't do it because they enjoy the experience, it's a rite of passage. Everybody pretends they appreciate real ale, the truth is no-one does – it's horrible.

You're better off with a nice light beer deep frozen to kill the flavour. Watney's Starlight for example. Much nicer than a mouthful of Old Man's Wiggler…

Dave

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Posted by Howi on 14/09/2018 09:20:59:

there seem to be many beers that have a slight fruitiness to them, my favourite being grapefruit (only a hint mind you).

i cannot have normal grapefruit as such as it defeats the purpose of the statins they have persuaded me to take.

doesn't stop me having the beer though

What happens is that the same enzymes in the liver that get rid of the statins are also used up getting rid of some of the grapefruit chemicals. This means that the liver is less able to get rid of the statins and the concentration of them becomes higher than expected (with the achy muscles and other symptoms if sufficiently extreme). Your doctor might not be enough of a chemist to tell you this, but you can adjust the statin dose downwards until you don't get the symptoms.

I actually had to cut my dose due to getting symptoms, then three months later, when collecting a script, the pharmacist took me to one side and told me that he'd just read a new warning of an interaction with Amlodipine calcium channel blockers. I thanked him and said that explained the problem. Blood tests show that they're working as well as ever, even at the now-reduced dose.

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

I can't stand any of the citrus flavoured stuff. I have tried all the offerings from Oakham because my God Daughter works there, not found a drinkable one yet. I was brought up drinking Highgate mild from Walsall in the West Midlands and the Black Country brewers like Banks. Now living not far from Burton On Trent so another good proper beer area.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

What do Watneys Starlight and making love in a punt have in common? They are both ****ing close to water.

Mike

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Vic on 14/09/2018 10:04:26:

Some others have been soapy and not cold enough – the sort of bitter that bearded old foggies like.

I resemble that remark (did I mean resent?)

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 14/09/2018 10:44:27:

As a young man I was dragged around many a CAMRA pub crawl and found that real ale is best for cracking hangovers. The very names are a clue that not all is well: Woodfords' Head Cracker; Skull Splitter; Ramblers Ruin; Old Stoat Wobbler; Old Slug Porter; and Extinction Ale. Real ale has me spending the following morning calling long distance on the big white telephone whilst wishing I was dead.

I reckon Real Ale is the British equivalent of running with the bulls in Pamplona. People don't do it because they enjoy the experience, it's a rite of passage. Everybody pretends they appreciate real ale, the truth is no-one does – it's horrible.

You're better off with a nice light beer deep frozen to kill the flavour. Watney's Starlight for example. Much nicer than a mouthful of Old Man's Wiggler…

May you spend eternity supping on a creamflow nitro-keg…

N.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Chris Evans 6 on 14/09/2018 13:31:34:

Now living not far from Burton On Trent so another good proper beer area.

DE14 – source of Branston, Marstons, Marmite and my daughter.

What's not to like?

Neil

[Stuart BridgerParticipant @stuartbridger82290]

The great thing about the current evolution in brewing is that there are styles for all tastes. My wife is not a fan at all of traditional English bitters, but will drink hoppy and citrusy IPAs.

When it comes to lagers, a lot of my lager drinking frienss wont touch craft lagers. Becuase they can taste them..

[Fowlers FuryParticipant @fowlersfury]

"DE14 – source of Branston, Marstons, Marmite and my daughter. What's not to like?"

Proximity to Derby County FC ???

(nowt wrong with Burton Albion though)

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

From what I could tell from my time there, Canadians and many Mercans seemed to equate hoppiness with greatness. Some of the really "good" beers were so hoppy and bitter they almost turned your tongue inside out. God nose why people enjoy that. I'd even end up drinking something as pathetic as Bud or Coors Light in preference.

I know that there are several distinctly different groups of people when it comes to smells and tastes and (like Rod perhaps), I'm not a lover of bitter and pungent smells. But even so, some of the hoppy stuff out there takes some stomaching. Not surprisingly perhaps, I'm not a fan of grapefruit juice either. Each to his own!

Murray

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

Fruity beers sounds dangerously like Alcho Pops – booze for children, other wise known as underage drinkers.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

For Christmas I was given a can with a glass and bottle of Motorhead 'Road Crew' beer, which is marketed as an example of the American citrussy style. I always had Lemmy down as a Jack and Coke man…

Neil

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

When I was in the Air Force and stationed at Bicester in the early sixties there was a pub nearby that only served beer from wooden barrels, they were all lined up on a rack behind the bar and each barrel had a tap, no pipes or pumps, just gravity feed straight from the barrel. Spent many evenings in there and for the life of me I can’t remember the name of the pub or the brewery.

Dave W

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

When I were a lad there was a pub in Arncliffe (Yorkshire Dales) which had the barrels in the cellar but no pumps. When you wanted a pint the barman would shout 'anyone else want one? and disappear carrying an enamel jug. Absolute nectar.

And as for Silly Old Duffer and his Watney's Starlight, I'd suggest washing your mouth out with soapy water but if you'll drink such a diabolical brew you'd probably enjoy it.

I also remember Lump Hammer Bitter and Desperate Dan Cow Pie from when I had a contract running at Thompson Nuclear. You definitely didn't want 2 pints at lunchtime, evenings another matter altogether.

[Chris Evans 6Participant @chrisevans6]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 14/09/2018 17:09:01:

Posted by Chris Evans 6 on 14/09/2018 13:31:34:

Now living not far from Burton On Trent so another good proper beer area.

DE14 – source of Branston, Marstons, Marmite and my daughter.

What's not to like?

Neil

DE13 for me but close enough to enjoy the ales. Got a soft spot for Burton Bridge offerings. New micro brewery opened in Hamstell Ridware, not sampled it yet.

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

I'll drink anything that's wet but unless the muppet behind the bar actually knows what cellar management means then I'll only drink from the top shelf.

My local's beer is truly abysmal but even they can't ruin whisky.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 14/09/2018 17:04:27:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 14/09/2018 10:44:27:…

May you spend eternity supping on a creamflow nitro-keg…

N.

Mmmm, full of sugary goodness. A flamboyantly forward brew with a hint of ripe peach, refreshingly doux, bright, austere, and unerringly voluptuous. Sadly it's a refined delicacy impossible to appreciate without a having a well educated palate. The enigmatic delights of fizzy beer are rarely valued by rough beardy men…

Dave

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 14/09/2018 21:42:57:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 14/09/2018 17:04:27:

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 14/09/2018 10:44:27:…

May you spend eternity supping on a creamflow nitro-keg…

N.

Mmmm, full of sugary goodness. A flamboyantly forward brew with a hint of ripe peach, refreshingly doux, bright, austere, and unerringly voluptuous. Sadly it's a refined delicacy impossible to appreciate without a having a well educated palate. The enigmatic delights of fizzy beer are rarely valued by rough beardy men…

Dave

I'm on the verge of being offended (see my photo)

[Barnaby WildeParticipant @barnabywilde70941]

Posted by duncan webster on 14/09/2018 20:28:04:

When I were a lad there was a pub in Arncliffe (Yorkshire Dales) which had the barrels in the cellar but no pumps. When you wanted a pint the barman would shout 'anyone else want one? and disappear carrying an enamel jug. Absolute nectar.

If you are ever nearby, there is a pub called 'The Dead Poets' near Belper Derbys that serves this way.

It is proper real ale & not just a marketing ploy, frequented by folk who cancelled their memberships of <spits> CAMRA 30yrs ago. Folk that know & appreciate their beer, their music & their company.

We call them the "MFI Wardrobes", because although they are capable of standing upright, they seem to wobble of their own accord

[VicParticipant @vic]

They don’t even sell Bitter in the six Curry houses near me as far as I know, I’ve only ever seen people drinking Lager. I’m sure it must be a legal requirement for men over 18 …

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Not being a wine drinker I like a beer with a meal but restaurants only seem to offer lagers which as a lifelong bitter drinker is not my first choice. I have now sampled quite a few lagers and some are acceptable as Hobsons choice. Holidaying in Europe also tends to push one down the lager path but as it usually warmer than here it seems to work ok. I made a bad mistake once when working in Germany and drunk five pints of Weiss beer which did not agree with me big time, steered clear of that stuff ever since. Just this week I was left with Blue Moon as the only draught beer so I gave it a go, a pint of white liquid with a slice of orange turned up, it turns out to an American version of a Belgian Witbier, they are a bit coy about owning up to being part of Miller Coors, I survived a couple of pints without damage but now I know I won’t bother again.

Mike

[Geoff TheasbyParticipant @geofftheasby]

Long term strong lager drinker here. However, I do like Speckled Hen, Abbotts Ale, Bishops Finger, and, of course, Old Peculier and Taylors Landlord. Something I can wrap my tongue round.

I don't like cold beer, it gives me brain freeze and takes away the taste.

Geoff

[James AlfordParticipant @jamesalford67616]

We must be lucky around here as the two larger local breweries, Chiltern Brewery and Rebellion, turn out a good variety of beer, including some decent traditional ales. Nothing like the Brakespear Old or Weathered's Winter Royal were, mind.

James.

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

We are lucky now, if you like beer, back in the 70's there were only 147 real beers left in Britain. I was lucky enough to be one of a group that drank a sample of all of them in a week. The pub in the Dales reminded me of one near Richmond that only served 2 pints or more. The landlord only had one arm and he was trying to cut down on walking.

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