Just propaganda to keep the lawyers at bay

It will happen eventually, as the electric infrastructure builds, say 2060?

90% of us in here will all be together in that great machineshop in the sky before we see it methinks

Hydrogen vehicles may also be more common

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Other interesting car news

The number of people aged over 90 holding a driving licence in Britain has topped 100,000 for the first time.

Figures from the DVLA also show more than 4.5 million of the 39 million people holding valid driving licences are aged over 70

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40715377

Edited By Ady1 on 26/07/2017 09:48:58

For a start they can get rid of "speed bumps", all the slowing and speeding up must increase pollution (and unnecessary wear and tear, damage to tyres etc.

Get the freight of the roads and back on an enhanced railway system where it belongs.

Rik

Follow the money trail. As long as there is the ability to produce diesel & petrol fuel, it will be sold and consumed somewhere. The world air currents don't recognise borders or government bans.

Edited By Mike E. on 26/07/2017 10:57:02

Seem to be missing the point, they will ban the SALE of NEW fossil fuel cars 2040 BUT what is the life of a current car 15 maybe 20 years so now we are talking 2070 before we fully covert

AND that assumes the alternatives can be developed in a similar time frame

example how many batteries does it take to power a 40T truck from lands end to john o groats, how many recharges

don't think our generation need worry just yet

So you can forget Ni Cad its now more like Ni Impossible

Edited By Trevorh on 26/07/2017 11:10:03

My understanding is the ban is just for straight petrol & or diesel cars. Hybrid vehicles will fine.

This is all just a load of tosh – there won't be any solo petrol/diesel powered vehicles in 23 years anyway – and I wouldn't be at all surprised if most people haven't gone all electric by then anyway.

Production of the new Tesla Model 3 has already begun, it offers a proper sized car, competing with your Mondeo's and 3 to 5 series BMW's and A4 Audi's, not just on size, but on price too. The base model will have 215 mile range (likely about 180 in the real world at a guess) and the top model will have a 300 mile range (260 ish in the real world I guess). The batteries can currently be charged in 30-45 minutes at a charging station, and I have noticed them up and down the motorway services – I think you'd be ready for a break after driving that far! A full "tank" is a few quid, no more than £3 if I recall correct.

They're also doing a home storage system, which comes with or connects to a renewable energy source, it banks power throughout the day, and transfers it to your car at night – free energy, minus initial investment – but with fuel prices as high as they are, its all getting bought up!

It's £1000 (completely refundable) to get your name on the waiting list, and the waiting list is already 12 months long and they're only just starting production.

Get ready for the electric takeover, and chuckle when someone says petrol/diesel will be banned by 2040…… there won't be much left to ban!

The Tesla Model 3 mentioned above has full autopilot as standard. If it weren't for the safety interlocks – there wouldn't need to be a driver.

https://vimeo.com/192179726

Not a bad vehicle for a under £25k GBP

Edited By Russ B on 26/07/2017 11:39:16

Man has been steadily polluting the world for millenia. It's just that there are more of us, with the better technology, to do it more effectively.

Hydrogen as a fuel is not necessarily the way to remove pollution.

Burning anything in air, can produce high enough temperatures to oxidise the Nitrogen, so it may not just be water leaving the tail[pipe.

And the Hydrogen will have been produced by electrolysis; so burning fossil fuels, solar, hydro, wave, wind power, or nuclear, as the initial power source?

And currently, in UK we transport goods by road that are too large to fit into the loading gauge of all the railways.

So vast expenditure on infrastructure to enlarge the loading gauge, and to electrify every inch of railway, (so that we don't have to use internal combustion or steam power, ANYWHERE) ?

And maritime transport presumably will rely either on sail or nuclear power? The Galley may not be the place to cook, just to row!

But cheer up! Public road transport will be clean and cheap, there will be bicycle pedals and cranks at every seat; but just don't get on an empty bus!

At least I shan't be around to see the mess made by the technically ignorant ideologues running (did I omit an i from that word?) the country.

Howard

Has anyone on here got real evidence of how much an electric car costs to charge?

not hearsay or manufactures figures but real it cost me 40 units to do 40 miles sort of evidence

A company i do work for has just bought a mitsubishi plug in hybrid 4wd car and so far hes not had the petrol engine start up he says it should have a range of 50 miles or so on pure battery.

i offered to lend him a electricity meter to see how much it cost to charge he declined as he doesnt want to know…..

anyway has anyone got real evidence in real world conditions

Edited By Ian Parkin on 26/07/2017 12:03:05

It occurs to me that cycling may have an overall negative effect on emissions, the queue of cars and trucks crawling along looking for a safe place to pass and then having to briskly accelerate to pass safely could easily negate the good done by the cyclist. More safe cycle paths are required for the safety of cyclists and to keep traffic moving freely and as efficiently as possible.

Mike

Pure political statement, many governments will come and go before then. No one will be around then who made the statement today to be held accountable for the decision, right or wrong.

The new big Tesla pack is 100kWh for about 350 mile range. On the face of it, that's going to cost you £15 to fill up, or about 4p a mile.

But of course charging isn't 100% efficient so I probably nearer to 5p a mile in the real world.

Neil