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  • #157916
    Michael Gilligan
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      @michaelgilligan61133

      Given the merriment that my short-lived "game" caused … I was interested to see this one described as a Watchmaking Lathe, being offered "direct from Myford Ltd."

      MichaelG.

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      #157926
      Steve Withnell
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        @stevewithnell34426

        Michael,  I can see that the new owners have taken a step forward with their new line in Myford machines.

        I have a Super Adept my Grandad bought in a pub for 30/-. It's never made anything, I cleaned it up, put some Hammerite on it, put it back on the shelf where it's now rusting away again.

        Just after it was cleaned up:

        lathe2.jpg

         

        So once this thread has run its course, I'll know what to do with it!

        Steve

         

        Edited By Steve Withnell on 15/07/2014 19:58:48

        Edited By Steve Withnell on 15/07/2014 19:59:12

        #157939
        Neil Wyatt
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          @neilwyatt

          I'll give you £1.65 for it. 10% seems a fair markup

          Neil

          #157962
          Michael Gilligan
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            @michaelgilligan61133
            Posted by Bogstandard2 on 15/07/2014 21:56:58:

            Just use it as raw materials to make something decent out of.

            I just wonder how long it will be before whoever gets ripped off with the one Michael pointed us to asks the question on here about how he can make a loco or traction engine with it.

            John

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            … or indeed a Watch !!!

            MichaelG.

            ..

            "Just use it as raw materials to make something decent out of."

            … That was actually the starting-point for this thread [a thinking game].

             

            Edited By Michael Gilligan on 15/07/2014 23:13:12

            #157980
            David Clark 13
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              @davidclark13

              I need a door stop for the workshop!

              Seriously though, I remember the article Neil posted above. I enjoyed reading it many years ago and If I had had the facilities at the time to improve it, an Adept would would have made an ideal addition to the workshop.

              It would be great for watch and clock repairs, and for 00 and 0 gauce railways.

              There were many contributors to Model Engineer in the post war years who wrote articles about improving small lathes. They had to, they could not pick up the phone and just buy a lathe made in China for a fraction of the cost of a British machine like you can now.

              #157989
              Bazyle
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                @bazyle

                It does seem a bit mean when something is over advertised. It could be bought by and OAP or kid with great expectations only to be dashed and frustrated. Different matter from one of us buying it as an ornament or curio. There is also a round bed Drummond that keeps appearing on ebay as a 'gunsmith's lathe' but so far nobody has be taken in.

                Despite the knocks as said above it could be used for small work so it would be interesting if one of those who do own one to make eg a small oscillator engine and show teh process in a thread.

                #157996
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133
                  Posted by Bazyle on 16/07/2014 12:06:11:

                  It does seem a bit mean when something is over advertised.

                  .

                  Exactly …

                  MichaelG.

                  #157999
                  Neil Wyatt
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                    @neilwyatt

                    I can sell you an ecologist's dishwashing machine. It would be true, but no good for washing ecologists…

                    Seriously, despite what I said I would be interested in a short article on real experience with an Adept (super or otherwise).

                    Neil

                    #158001
                    Ian S C
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                      @iansc

                      When the bull wheel locking pin got damaged on my 1326 BH lathe, I used the Super Adept to turn a new one from a bit of silver steel. Did a similar job a little earlier, before the Adept was set up by holding the bit of steel in the Jacobs chuck on the vertical milling machine, and holding a lathe tool in the machine vice, and using that set up turned ??, can't remember what, but it was steel of some sort, and looking back, was probably easier than the little lathe.

                      Ian S C         NBG as boat anchor, or door stop.

                      Edited By Ian S C on 16/07/2014 13:23:45

                      #158010
                      Michael Gilligan
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                        @michaelgilligan61133
                        Posted by Neil Wyatt on 16/07/2014 13:06:59:

                        I can sell you an ecologist's dishwashing machine. It would be true, but no good …

                        .

                        Quite so, Neil

                        … and if you were just an individual, it would be caveat emptor.

                        But; if you were trading as a well-known manufacturer of dishwashing machines; I might reasonably expect you to describe your machine plainly.

                        MichaelG.

                        #158017
                        Another JohnS
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                          @anotherjohns
                          Posted by Steve Withnell on 15/07/2014 19:52:25:

                          lathe2.jpg

                          Steve – what a beautiful little lathe!

                          I took an old Unimat SL (mark 1) and CNC'd it and not only is it a great exhibition display, it actually works – latest turnings are parts for safety valves. An adept would be a great little one to do, but lathes like this do not seem to exist on this side of the atlantic.

                          Sigh – JohnS.

                          #158022
                          Roderick Jenkins
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                            @roderickjenkins93242

                            Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 16/07/2014 17:13:46

                            Steve – what a beautiful little lathe!

                            I took an old Unimat SL (mark 1) and CNC'd it and not only is it a great exhibition display, it actually works – latest turnings are parts for safety valves. An adept would be a great little one to do, but lathes like this do not seem to exist on this side of the atlantic.

                            Agreed. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the design of the lathe. A dovetail bed and steel-in-cast-iron headstock all work admirably. The only real problem is trying to do work that is too big for it. – empahsised by that 4 jaw chuck. disgust The execution of the design by Adept may not have been great (but no worse than some of the more modern imports) but Cowells have shown how a similar basic design can made into a first class machine for making small items. I myself have an early Flexispeed waiting for some TLC.

                            Cheers,

                            Rod

                            Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 16/07/2014 17:36:22

                            #158053
                            Gone Away
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                              @goneaway

                              Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 16/07/2014 17:13:46:

                              ……lathes like this do not seem to exist on this side of the atlantic.

                              There was one listed off and on for a year or so in the Toronto Craigslist. He started off at $150, which I thought was kind of "up there" considering its condition (poor but possibly restorable). Then the asking price was raised to $200 (perhaps in the hope that the inevitable "offers" would come in at around the original $150).

                              The ad seems to have disappeared recently – I don't know if he sold it or got fed up.

                              #158057
                              Michael Gilligan
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                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                Posted by John Alexander Stewart on 16/07/2014 17:13:46:

                                Steve – what a beautiful little lathe!

                                An adept would be a great little one to do, but lathes like this do not seem to exist on this side of the atlantic.

                                .

                                John,

                                An interesting alternative, from your side, might be the Goodell Pratt

                                But; do bear in mind that G-P used a WW-style bed, so longitudinal traverse, or screwcutting, under CNC might prove challenging.

                                MichaelG.

                                #158061
                                daveb
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                                  @daveb17630
                                  Posted by julian atkins on 02/03/2014 18:12:08:

                                  i would agree with John Stevenson, except perhaps use it as a grinder. i dont know anyone who has built anything successfully on an adept lathe.

                                  I have to disagree, I currently use an old carbide tipped lathe tool for truing up my bench grinder wheels but an Adept lathe would be much easier to hold and would probably last longer.

                                  #158062
                                  Michael Gilligan
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                                    @michaelgilligan61133
                                    Posted by Michael Gilligan on 16/07/2014 22:28:32:

                                    John,

                                    An interesting alternative, from your side, might be the Goodell Pratt

                                    But; do bear in mind that G-P used a WW-style bed, so longitudinal traverse, or screwcutting, under CNC might prove challenging.

                                    .

                                    John,

                                    Just for clarity … this is the page that I should have pointed you to.

                                    MichaelG.

                                    #158073
                                    Paul Lousick
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                                      @paullousick59116

                                      Why does everyone knock these these lathes. They were probably leading edge technology in their day. Any lathe is a good lathe (especially if you do not have one).

                                      Found this one at our local machinery supplier in Sydney. It is treadle powered with your foot. Not sure what type it is. Will find more details next time.

                                      hare & forbes 1.jpg

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                                      #158089
                                      Another JohnS
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                                        @anotherjohns
                                        Posted by Michael Gilligan on 16/07/2014 23:16:51:

                                        Posted by Michael Gilligan on 16/07/2014 22:28:32:

                                        John,

                                        An interesting alternative, from your side, might be the Goodell Pratt

                                        But; do bear in mind that G-P used a WW-style bed, so longitudinal traverse, or screwcutting, under CNC might prove challenging.

                                        Just for clarity … this is the page that I should have pointed you to.

                                        Thank you for the link – but the watchmaker style of lathes are, as you correctly surmise, harder to CNC.

                                        BTW – that adept page on Tony's site has a bit about an overseas collector – who happens to live in the same town as I do – have to look him up!

                                        JohnS.

                                        #158339
                                        Robbo
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                                          @robbo

                                          The one on ebay pointed out by MichaelG has just sold for £77.

                                          #158399
                                          Neil Wyatt
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                                            @neilwyatt

                                            I saw a genuine Pultra lathe for £150 at Chesterfield SMEE,

                                            Neil

                                            #158417
                                            john jennings 1
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                                              @johnjennings1

                                              As a kid I lived along the road from ‘Bonds o’ Euston Road ‘ and to enter the shop you went through a tunnel of display windows. Although mainly models and kits some tools were displayed including a Super Adept Lathe, I thought then, as a nine year old, what an odd bit of kit it was with a relatively giant chuck and no driving motor. I reckoned that no way could I get it to function : I’m afraid that’s what I think over sixty years later. Compared with today’s market this part of the Euston Road was some sort of heaven as in addition to Bonds, Buck and Ryan had a huge branch particularly stocking hand tools for the metal and woodworking trades and the Showroom of F J Edwards that sold really heavy machine tools.

                                              John

                                              #158421
                                              thomas oliver 2
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                                                @thomasoliver2

                                                At last a common sense comment on the Adept lathe from P.Lousick. Lets have more facts instead of idle speculation. Around 1948, after demob from the RAF in 1947, I happened to work near a small factory producing the "Wizard" lathe whicih is clone of the Adepts, but made from Meehanite. I went to a surplus sale at the factory and bought a set of reject parts for the lathe for a song. I found the leadscrew bearing cast on the bed out of line causing th saddle to jam up. I managed to rectify this,and began a long learning curve with the help mainly of the Model Engineer magazine. I was member of the local model flying club and the then thing was control line flying. The members broke the needle valves with mon,tonous regularity and some cost. I managed to make some 5BA needle valves and sold them at a mininmal cost to members. I could not afford to buy a 3.jaw chuck which were largely unobtainable in the small size needed at that time, so I made 0 MT collets from mild steel to fit the headstock with a drawbar. I needed to make 4BA needle valves but it is a non standard size,so I labouriously bored a collet with a tiny boring bar..I used this lathe over 35 years to make not 101 but more like 1001 different items.. With the advent of Ebay I found a great demand for model diesel engine parts and started making these parts again and have netted maybe £1500 per annum for the last four years, and have sold them all over the world.. Nort bad for a crappy little useless lathe.

                                                #158444
                                                jason udall
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                                                  @jasonudall57142

                                                  The “oversize” chuck may have served a different purpose…as flywheel for the pedal driven version. ..

                                                  #158466
                                                  Jim Guthrie
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                                                    @jimguthrie82658

                                                    Noting the reference to "pedal driven", I do remember getting a Super Adept in the late 1960s/early 1970s and using it for a few years to help in model making. It started off being mounted on an old Singer sewing machine stand and using the Singer treadle to power it. But I did fit a small motor since treadle turning on that setup was not all that easy. smiley However, like Thomas Oliver's lathe, it did a lot of good work for me and it made me learn to set up a four jaw chuck quickly. smiley It was superceded by an ML10 and lay unused for years until it was passed on to someone else a year or two ago. I've almost come full circle now and have started using a Cowells for a lot of my work, which is not all that different from using the Super Adept – maybe just a tad more accurate. smiley

                                                    Jim.

                                                    #158485
                                                    Ian S C
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                                                      @iansc

                                                      The giant chuck on my Super Adept is 2 1/4" diameter. Ian S C

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