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    JasonB
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      @jasonb

      About a week ago I got an email from a Guy I have made engines for in the past asking if I would be interested in helping him out with a flywheel.

      He is part way through the build but the flywheel casting has several problems, where have I heard that before? Firstly it is cast from aluminium rather than iron. The two halves are misaligned by 3mm. Both the rim and the spokes are excessively heavy when compared to photos of the original, this may be to compensate for the use of aluminium. The flywheel has a large balance weight but this is supplied as a separate casting to be screwed on not an integral part of the casting requiring drilling through the face of the rim to fix it.

      Being the chap that I am my reply was I should be able to help, let me have more details. Over a few evenings a new flywheel was developed based on some images he sent me and about 20 screen shots that I senyt back until a design that was acceptable was arrived at. Still slightly wide at teh rim but as the scale goes down you need a bit more mass at the rim but not as thick as the original drawings.

      flywheel render

      A slice of 190dia cast iron bar was ordered from M0-machine along with some other materials that I wanted and today I made a start roughing it out. I had ordered a 25mm long piece but it was closer to 29mm so a fair bit of searf to get it down to 23mm overall thickness then 18mm at the rim. Two 6mm holes were counterbored from both sides so I could screw it into some previously tapped holes in my faceplate.

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      I took a light skim off the first side then with that against the faceplate took some heavier cuts to start bringing the thickness down. 300rpm, 1.25mm depth of cut with a CCGT060202 “spare corner”

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      Not too bad a roughing cut

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      #808924
      JasonB
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        @jasonb

        I forgot to add an image of the original

        Screen Shot 08

        #809519
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          I got the remaining turning work done which consisted of reducing the thickness to leave a small spigot which will become the wider hub. I also cut the recess in each sid eof the flywheel rim, this was done with a combination of round ended brazed carbide tool, boring bar with 060208 insert and a left hand tool with a similar insert.

           

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          Moving over to the CNC I started with an Adaptive path to remove the majority of the material down to 2/3rds the depth with a 6mm 3 flute cutter

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          I then used a “ramp” path for the near vertical inner edges of teh rim and spokes a sthey had 3degrees draft. Followed this by a horizontal path to finish the tops of teh spokes and balance weight.

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          Anyone care to have a guess at the final weight, the slice started off at 5.82kg which is about 13lbs? I should have the answer tomorrow.

           

          #809521
          Diogenes
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            @diogenes

            1800g?

            #809633
            half whit
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              @half-whit

              At least 2/3 of lost weight, 4.3lbs.

              Jason, I trust you have a large swarf bin!!!

              Geoff

              #809697
              JasonB
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                @jasonb

                Whatever size it is, I know it’s full😀😀😀

                Ran the other side this morning. As this part is stretching my Y axis travel to it’s maximum, infact I have had to turn off the limit switches to get the movement I need I was not able to us emy usual way to line up teh second side but happy with how things turned out.

                The Adaptive only needed to be 6mm deep not 12mm so took just over half the time it did yesterday.

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                Then the same finishing paths as I use dfor the first side which just go 0.1mm below the half thickness. You can see how the light catches the two draft angles quite well on the inside of the rim. The surface is good enough to go straight to paint, I used 0.25mm stepdowns.

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                A bit more swarf to subtract from the original weight

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                #809985
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  Well the results are in and the weight has been checked.

                  Diogenes is the winner with a guess of 1.8kg or 3.96lbs. So just PM me your address so I can send you the 4kg of cast iron swarf you have won as your prize 😁

                  The flywheel weighed 1.235kg on the kitchen scales which is not far off the 1.22kg that Alibre said it was going to be.

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                  Now I can get on and make two smaller ones for myself.

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                  #809990
                  Diogenes
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                    @diogenes

                    It’s a shame it’s all in chips, I’m very partial to C/CI – one of my favourite materials to work with.

                    Just out of interest how many big wheels do you get per cutter?

                    #809991
                    half whit
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                      @half-whit

                      Gutted!!!! I originally said 4lbs but then upped it to 4.3.

                      Never minnd

                      #809992
                      JasonB
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                        @jasonb

                        I would say I could get 3 to 5 of those large ones done before the cutters started to go off, the corner radius ones wear quicker as it is just that quarter circular corner that is doing all the cutting on the finish cuts but the flat ended cutters are using in this case 6mm of ths ide flutes most of the time.

                        F360 tells me the adaptive cutter travelled 129m and the corner radius 83m

                        They were not particularlay expensive, the 3-flute 6mm was £2.02 and the 6mm R1 4-flute corner radius about £2.50, both carbide. so maybe cost a pound in cutters.

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