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    JA
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      @ja

      In all this media speculation and near panic about Coronavirus there is a very sensible thing one can do – check your will is up to date or, if you have not made one, make one. Also let your executors know where the will is kept.

      I am not trying to be morbid.

      JA

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      JA
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        @ja
        #455338
        Tony Pratt 1
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          @tonypratt1

          As Jones used to say 'don't panic', I would suggest I am more at risk driving to work than pegging it from Coronavirus.frown

          Tony

          #455341
          Roger Clark
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            @rogerclark

            All the more reason to self isolate……………….. in your workshop laugh, oh and not go shopping with the missus devil

            Roger

            #455342
            Jeff Dayman
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              @jeffdayman43397

              Hi Tony, well if the drivers in your area are anything like the ones near me, I'd say you are exactly right!

              Between that and my wife's cooking, I haven't got a chance…….smiley

              #455344
              Martin Kyte
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                @martinkyte99762
                Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 04/03/2020 12:19:13:

                As Jones used to say 'don't panic', I would suggest I am more at risk driving to work than pegging it from Coronavirus.frown

                Tony

                Particularly when there is a pandemic in full swing and all the paramedics are off sick.

                I would suggest that at least one major reason for doing as much as possible to reduce transmission is the protection of vital services which will cost lives if they are compromised to any great extent. I would expect when all this is over the figures for indirect deaths (not from the virus itself) is going to be high if it really gets into the general population.

                regards Martin

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                Former Member
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                  @formermember19781

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                  #455348
                  peak4
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                    @peak4
                    Posted by JA on 04/03/2020 12:16:40:

                    In all this media speculation and near panic about Coronavirus there is a very sensible thing one can do – check your will is up to date or, if you have not made one, make one. Also let your executors know where the will is kept.

                    I am not trying to be morbid.

                    JA

                    The other thing to consider is a Power(s) of Attorney, though it's quite expensive.
                    Not panicking about the current situation, as I was in the process of setting one up before the present situation arose.

                    Bill

                    #455351
                    Cornish Jack
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                      @cornishjack

                      JA, Bill Chugg and Peak4 – should i assume that you reacted similarly to the confirmed statistics for the annual influenza toll? To paraphrase … 'morbidity is as morbidity does'.

                      rgds

                      Bill

                      #455352
                      mechman48
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                        @mechman48

                        Have just recently updated our wills & am looking to set up power of attorney ( financial & health /welfare ) for our daughters later on this year.

                        George.

                        #455354
                        duncan webster 1
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                          @duncanwebster1
                          Posted by mechman48 on 04/03/2020 13:54:47:

                          Have just recently updated our wills & am looking to set up power of attorney ( financial & health /welfare ) for our daughters later on this year.

                          George.

                          You don't need a solicitor to do this, but make sure you fill in the forms correctly, as if you get it wrong you have to pay the fee to the government again next time you submit it.

                          #455357
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                            @mgnbuk

                            Power of attorney

                            Link to government power of attorney site. My wife did both for her mother without using a solicitor and, due to the MILs circumstances, without charge.

                            Nigel B.

                            #455359
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                              @formermember19781

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                              #455362
                              peak4
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                                @peak4
                                Posted by Cornish Jack on 04/03/2020 13:53:50:

                                JA, Bill Chugg and Peak4 – should i assume that you reacted similarly to the confirmed statistics for the annual influenza toll? To paraphrase … 'morbidity is as morbidity does'.

                                rgds

                                Bill

                                Bill, please read what I actually wrote

                                "Not panicking about the current situation, as I was in the process of setting one up before the present situation arose."

                                Bill

                                #455364
                                Samsaranda
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                                  @samsaranda

                                  It seems as though the world is getting paranoid about Coronavirus, so far the mortality is estimated at less than normal flu, each year hundreds die from influenza in this country and we don’t get this worked up about it. I recently had flu with complications and spent four days in hospital, it made me realise that influenza complications can be serious, but we just take it in our stride. I am not advocating that we don’t treat Coronavirus as serious but we need to put it in perspective, if we take all the precautions that we can, if we get it then 99% of us should survive.
                                  Dave W

                                  #455371
                                  Martin Kyte
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                                    @martinkyte99762

                                    Just suppose for a moment that Corona Virus was 100% non fatal (which it isnt) but that 50% of the workforce were off sick at the same time (which they probably will not be). How many would die just down to the non provision of vital services and medicines. Delaying cancer treatment will cost lives, diabetics without insulin supplies will be in real trouble to name but 2 examples. Slowing the spread will ensure that concurrent absentee numbers will be reduced and the support services we all rely on will be maintained as well as possible. I have invented the percentages just to make the point that we may find it's the fall out that hurts us most.

                                    That said I'm sure that the majority of us will just do the best we can.

                                    regards Martin

                                    #455379
                                    Ady1
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                                      @ady1

                                      I'm mightily impressed with Mother Nature

                                      We have a global pandemic because some dude in china wanted wild squirrel fried rice for his tea

                                      #455388
                                      Mick B1
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                                        @mickb1

                                        There are some here who shoot and eat squirrel. Is the wildlife vector known? Some have blamed bats.

                                        #455389
                                        Phil H1
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                                          @philh196021
                                          Posted by Ady1 on 04/03/2020 15:37:22:

                                          I'm mightily impressed with Mother Nature

                                          We have a global pandemic because some dude in china wanted wild squirrel fried rice for his tea

                                          I think it is down to some bunch of witch doctors hassling the poor old pangolin. Lovely little ant eater type things minding their own business, munching ants and termites in Africa and some idiot wanted to make soup out of them.

                                          #455391
                                          mark costello 1
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                                            @markcostello1

                                            TV here said it was traced to Someone ate bat soup that had some bat pee in it.surprise Wifey had to go to Doctors for a routine shot, ALL the Nurses were out sick with the flu, the Doctor had to beg and borrow Nurses from other Doctor's offices to stay open.

                                            #455407
                                            Neil Wyatt
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                                              @neilwyatt

                                              It's the Millennials. They've genetically engineered a virus that targets us baby boomers…

                                              Neil

                                              #455408
                                              V8Eng
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                                                @v8eng

                                                Some info on the subject via my doctor’s website.

                                                Patient info

                                                #455410
                                                martin perman 1
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                                                  @martinperman1

                                                  My Sister and Husband are in Bulgaria at the moment and she received an email today from her work telling her she is to self Isolate for two weeks before returning to work, my daughter and her co workers are going to be issued with laptops to work from home for upto two weeks whilst the company deep cleans the site, nobody in the company has the virus by the way, the world has hit the panic button.

                                                  Martin P

                                                  #455411
                                                  Martin Whittle
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                                                    @martinwhittle67411

                                                    Based on emails I have sent to my own family over the last couple of weeks:

                                                    Interesting plots (look at 'rest of world ex. China&#39 on: **LINK** . Click button below graph to change y axis to log scale (but note the last 3 points on the graph are extrapolated figures for next 3 days)

                                                    Also, more noddy graph of same data on:

                                                    **LINK**

                                                    So over most of February, the log graph is a remarkably straight line showing 10 fold increase over any 3 weeks.. Since around 20 February it has increased to a factor of 10 over 12 days.

                                                    So allowing maybe 10-fold increase in cases every 2 weeks, if this continues, most of global population could have been exposed to the virus in around 12 weeks::infected then 1 miillion times more numerous than now, nobody left to infect!. I presume this is where the 12 week figure recently quoted by health secretary Matt Hancock comes from.

                                                    Expected mortality at minimum estimate of 1% for near 8 billion population gives around 80 million deaths, near double the 1918 flu pandemic. Note typical recent mortality at nearer 2% is much greater than current general flu of around 0.1%, and is also greatly dependant on age But data is still at very preliminary stage.

                                                    Notable age dependence of fatality rate, **LINK** , brief summary extract (ages relevant to various generations of my own family):

                                                    • 0-9 years: no fatalities yet recorded
                                                    • 30-39: 0.2% fatality
                                                    • 60-69: 3.6%
                                                    • 80+: 14.8%

                                                    Hope it does not continue like this, but I would have to have a good reason to believe so. Can the spread be contained? One hears platitudes on the lines of 'it will all die down in the spring, when we open our windows and get out more'.

                                                    I was wondering about sending a message about this to my family back in January based on the Chinese data. The prognosis appeared clearly much worse then with a mortality rate of 4%.and projected infection saturation in July, so not so bad now!

                                                    So:

                                                    • Scenario 1: the infection cannot be contained, leading to global infection and the global death toll of twice that of the 1918 influenza pandemic, when up to 50 million died.
                                                    • Scenario 2: the infection is contained through various measures including self isolation, sanitising measures (personal and public), availability of immunisation vaccine, etc. Hoping that this is is how it goes.

                                                    Anyway, I am preparing for the worst, but hoping for the best. Good luck to all!

                                                    Martin

                                                    #455415
                                                    David Leask
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                                                      @davidleask63627

                                                      Things are not looking too good up here in Scotland, Was going to go to the Scottish Motorcycle show at the weekend but have decided against it because of the risks and the possibility that I could infect my family.

                                                      There is a match on at Murrayfield at the weekend, 60,000 capacity and bound to be packed.

                                                      No sign of this containment policy.

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