There may be other good reasons for cancelling a SmartMeter , but a VFD shouldn't need to be one of them.
I've got a couple on the go here and have no issues.

Bill

This is all very much up in the air at the moment. It is known that smart meters can tell the difference between resistive and inductive loads like electric motors (and some types of lighting) and this would mean that the supply companies have the ability to charge more for inductive load, because the generators need to provide more power to satisfy inductive loads. They are not doing this at at the moment, at least as far as I know, but they could in the future. Theoretically, the VFD may well actually stop the meter from sensing the motor as an inductive load, so indeed, you may be better off with 3 phase and an RFD than you are with single phase.

Phil.

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John,

I thought that once you have gone"smart" there is no going back?

For me, not having a smart meter if I can help it.

x2 for Peak4's comments I got transwave setup on my Myford no problems since fitted Had I seen some of the comments on the internet and youtube I dont think I would have gone for a smart meter !!!

H

All I can say to most of the above is what a load of bull. This is so typical of the misinformed scaremongering around smart meters.

A smart meter cannot 'tell' what type of load is on the metered circuit. The metering element of a smart meter is no different to that of a heritage meter. The 'smart' part is that it is capable of communicating your usage data back to the energy supplier. It maintains a record of your usage history and displays that on your 'in home display unit' so that you can track your usage and make changes in usage if you choose to.

Let's be realistic, the meter is connected to your incoming supply , it is monitoring the whole of your property BEFORE your consumer unit, so within that property there will be a mixture of resistive and inductive load.

As to changes in charges dependent on time of day, that would have to be declared in your T&C's for particular tariff.

Smart meters are smart for both the customer and the supplier. This is not the thin end of the 'Big brother' wedge

Using VFD's has no bearing on whether or not you have a smart meter, I have both and have no issues before or after the Smart installation.

I work in the energy supply sector and and very closely involved with the smart meter rollout so if anyone wants clarification please ask, I will give chapter and verse but be assured, smart meters are NOT a 'spy in the cab' , they are designed to assist everyone in monitoring and optimising their energy usage.

Wouldn’t have one if they paid me, just do some internet searching including YouTube
Not legally obligated to have one.

Alan

I think your belief is probably a certainty. Here in Ontario we weren't given the choice with electrical smart meters (not that I recall anyway – I wouldn't have gone for it). Now we have 3 separate tariffs depending on time of day and day of week)

Even that isn't as bad as what the gas company tried to do (we have gas heating). They wanted to fit smart thermostats that they could talk to directly and adjust the settings according to their preferences/"needs". Yeah, right!

They needed permission for that one though since it involved going into the home (unlike the electrical meter which is outside). They didn't get many takers and it fell through.

The meters currently being installed by the majority of suppliers are SMETS2 compliant and will work with any supplier. In fact a lot of the SMETS1 meters can be firmware upgraded over the air to make them SMETS2 compatible, so they are a little smarter than some would have you believe.

Gray

Things must be different here. It's easy to change supplier, you could do it any time you like. Gone are estimated power bills. I think you get charged extra if you don't have a smart meter, and every alternate one will be an estimate. The meters were at no cost, and a lot of the old ones were getting old, and past their use by date, and would have cost more than the SMs to replace.

Most of what I see in the News Paper link from the UK is utter BS in my opinion.

1kwh is 1kwh smart meter or not.

Ian S C

So far, and despite Gray's comments, I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Smart meters will give me something that I am not doing anyway. Reading the meters? Do it already, on the 6th of every quarter. Switch on the washing machine during the cheap rate period? Being on Economy 7, we do it anyway? Remote display? Walk out the back door into the porch, turn right into the garage, and the meter (E7 meter) is immediately on my right at head height. Switch appliances off if the cost goes up too far? Give over, if the appliance is switched on, that's because we need to use it.

Sorry Gray, I do not for one moment believe that these devices are being installed to assist the consumer, rather it's a back door way of our equipment eventually being remotely controlled. And why? Because no-one in Government has the guts to stand up and say we need these extra power stations, and we are going to build them! Instead, they witter on about asking the Chinese/French/ Russians/everyone else to come and build Nuclear for us, and all the while pandering to the green lobby by allowing various assorted businesses to build wind turbines with their variable output.

Apologies for the rant.

Peter G. Shaw

Hardly – would be a bit of a problem if they had switched it off!